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Re: Free Speech (was Re: BARBARA AMERO COMPLAINTS !!!!!!)

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From: Barbara Amero
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:00
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Gord wrote:
> 
> Barbara Amero wrote:
> > Larry Phillips wrote:
> > > Sheila Paterson wrote:
> > > > Gordon McKenzie <me@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > > >>Sheila Paterson wrote:

> > > >>> Ms. Amaro has the right to free speech.  This includes the right to
> > > >>> be obnoxious and offensive.

> > > Yes, but she does not have the right to do it using whatever service
> > > she wants to. An ISP is under no obligation to provide a platform for
> > > that speech.

> > Well, if an ISP cancelled the accounts of all who are obnoxious and
> > offensive, they would go bankrupt. I find it most amusing reading
> > many of these posts. My most crude, offensive posts pale in
> > comparison to those made by men, who are permitted to do so with
> > impunity. YOU told Karen to take her jackboots and crawl back in
> > your sewer bitch. Seemingly that's OK since no one other than me
 
> For those of who new to these discussions, she makes the connection that because
> some man said the above to Karen Gordon and I did not complain about the
> comment, that I am responsible for the comment being made. 

Gordon, get a grip! Your ego is way too big. The thought of you 
never entered my mind when I wrote the above. IOW I was not making 
any connection with you and the above statement. If you note above, 
I said "no one" other than me complained. I made no mention of Gordon. 
Clearly these newsgroups attract men with big egos.

> I can assure anyone
> who cares that I made no such post, do not recall who made the post and only
> know that it was made as Ms. Amero compliained to me about it and I went looking
> for it.

BUT Gordon, you don't complain about the derogatory posts about women
that you do see. You posted that you saw the post made by a man calling
either Karen or me a "man-hating cunt" and you said that you choose to
ignore such posts by men. And YOU make derogatory, demeaning posts
about women!

> Just her way of twisting the facts to suite her narrow minded agenda.

Obviously this is an example of one of your no minded posts, nonsensical
posts. BUT it's a great way to avoid addressing the above issue, i.e.
men making crude, offensive, disgusting posts about women and NO ONE 
COMPLAINS and the offensiveness of *men's* posts relative to mine.
Again my most offensive, crude posts pale in comparison to the crude, 
offensive, insulting, degrading, demeaning posts made by men about me 
and other women. That you cannot deny! And I am attacked for my posts
and the men are not. A double standard. And, of course, such is just
used to try and silence me, to try and rid the Internet of Ms. Amero
because my posts threaten you fellas. If they didn't threaten you
fellas,
you wouldn't pay any attention to my posts!
 
> Hmmm. should a copy of this be forwarded to her ISP ;-)

If people haven't sent complaints yet, I'm sure they will
soon. DBIS is aware of the situation, and, as I understand,
someone there has had a look at these newsgroups. Unlike
Chebucto Community Net, DBIS is against censorship. While
the price of crude has gone up for me, I now have a level
playing field with the fellas.  ;-)

Barbara A. Amero
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From: Barbara Amero <amero@dbis.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Free Speech (was Re: BARBARA AMERO COMPLAINTS  !!!!!!)
Date: 1998/01/17
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