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Re: HAAALP! What is wrong with the Detroit Freenet?!?!?!?!

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From: Doctor Strange
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 23:46
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Domenico De Vitto        {spider} (ddv@unix.brighton.ac.uk) wrote:
: Brian Westphal (westphal@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu) wrote:
: : The Army isn't at all nervous about this.  The FreeNet machine is not 
: : connected to any Army machines.  They've said so in the local 
: : newspapers.  The problem is that a hacker broke through the FreeNet 
: : security and just about destroyed it.  This person knew what he needed to 
: : delete to get the system to crash, and make it hard to recover.  There 
: : have been several stories in the Detroit Free Press on it.  The folks at 
: : the FreeNet admit to being lax on security because they didn't think 
: : anyone would want to hack on a system that gives access to everybody.  
: : Unfortunately, they didn't understand the psychology of hackers.
 							 ^^^^^^^^^
: Some hackers.

Indeed.  That about sums it up, but in my usual style, I'll go on.  Fact 
is, most hackers I know have zero, zilch, nada, no interest in taking 
DOWN a system.  No use.  Also no challenge on a wide open system-- heck I 
could do it, thanks to Spy.org and 8lgm.  The person who took out the 
freenet was just some schmuck twerp with a few hack tools gleaned from a 
public source.  Not a hacker by any means, in any sense.

The psychology of hackers, as the above post so stereotypes it, has more 
to do with getting access and keeping it, than crashing a system that can 
itself be used to gain access.

Sorry to say, I have tell of a number of systems riddled with hackers.  
They stay up.

      -Mike


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