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Article #324Re: HAAALP! What is wrong with the Detroit Freenet?!?!?!?!
From: Doctor Strange
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 23:46
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 1994 23:46
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Domenico De Vitto {spider} (ddv@unix.brighton.ac.uk) wrote:
: Brian Westphal (westphal@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu) wrote:
: : The Army isn't at all nervous about this. The FreeNet machine is not
: : connected to any Army machines. They've said so in the local
: : newspapers. The problem is that a hacker broke through the FreeNet
: : security and just about destroyed it. This person knew what he needed to
: : delete to get the system to crash, and make it hard to recover. There
: : have been several stories in the Detroit Free Press on it. The folks at
: : the FreeNet admit to being lax on security because they didn't think
: : anyone would want to hack on a system that gives access to everybody.
: : Unfortunately, they didn't understand the psychology of hackers.
^^^^^^^^^
: Some hackers.
Indeed. That about sums it up, but in my usual style, I'll go on. Fact
is, most hackers I know have zero, zilch, nada, no interest in taking
DOWN a system. No use. Also no challenge on a wide open system-- heck I
could do it, thanks to Spy.org and 8lgm. The person who took out the
freenet was just some schmuck twerp with a few hack tools gleaned from a
public source. Not a hacker by any means, in any sense.
The psychology of hackers, as the above post so stereotypes it, has more
to do with getting access and keeping it, than crashing a system that can
itself be used to gain access.
Sorry to say, I have tell of a number of systems riddled with hackers.
They stay up.
-Mike
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