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Article #479Re: Incidence of payroll-deducted taxes
From: Travis Corcoran
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 00:00
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 1995 00:00
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In article <GREENEG.95Dec13123002@dali.cs.unc.edu> greeneg@dali.cs.unc.edu (George Greene) writes:
> From: greeneg@dali.cs.unc.edu (George Greene)
> Date: 13 Dec 1995 17:30:02 GMT
> That the government is taking _anything_ from you at all via
> payroll-deducted taxes is a complete myth.
Oh ? So why is it that if I work two jobs, each at $20,000 / year,
and I keep each job secret from the other employer, a certain amount
is subtracted from each paycheck for taxes, but if I reveal the
existance of the other jobs to each employer, a larger amount is
subtracted from each paycheck?
Why is it that if I tell my employer I have children, a lower amount
is subtracted from each paycheck?
Obviously the government is taking more or less money from my paycheck
based on facts about ME. Income taxes are NOT synonymous with some
employer-paid employee-tax.
> You can't believe everything that's printed on your
> pay-stub.
excuse me? Have IQ's just dropped ?
I believe the vacation time ammount.
I believe the sick time ammount.
I believe the state income tax ammount: if I transfer with in the
company to another state, it will change.
I believe the 401(k) deducations ; if I withdraw from the play,
I keep the money.
I believe the medical plan deductions ; if I withdraw from the play,
I keep the money.
I believe the dental plan deductions ; if I withdraw from the play,
I keep the money.
So, why should 1 particular item on the pay-stub be treated so differently?
> All of your payroll-deducted taxes are paid directly from your
> employer to the government.
So if I buy a car and have the monthly installment payments
automatically deducated from my bank account, does that mean that the
money was "never" mine, that I "never" earned it, and that the bank is
paying the car company for the car?
I think not.
> There is no real sense in which ANY of that money was EVER, at ANY
> time, "yours", so you can hardly speak of its being taken from you.
So why does the government give me some of my money back at the end of
the year when I tell them that I've been paying mortgage interest? Is
this just a nice gift ?
Note trimmed followups.
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