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In article <1992Sep7.022305.23714@cs.wayne.edu> delledg@jake.cc.wayne.edu (De Vaughn Elledge) writes:
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">I could tell you stories about WSU. I was a student there for 8 years
">Summary: They (the C&IT) treat the students like dirt, have no policy
">in place for students to challenge denial of access to university 
">computing facilities. They were not nice people back then. I don't know
">if things have changed at all.
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" Things have changed a lot since then. I've never been treated like dirt
" by the C@IT and there is a policy in place for denial of access to
" Computing Facilites. I've been here since '85 haven't had trouble with
" the C@IT...most trouble I've had is dealing with Profs/T.A.'s/etc who
" speak english with a heavy accent.  
"
"

Well, actually, the case that I heard of recently, the C&IT denied a 
student account to someone, and when that someone tried to get a judicial
hearing under the Student Due Process Policy, the C&IT (and university
attorneys) argued that the student wasn't being disciplined, but was
being denied access to "protect other users", so he didn't have any
rights at all. Here is a copy of the letter sent to that student. I've
deleted her name.

-----<BEGINNING OF LETTER>-------

September 23, 1991

<NAME OF STUDENT DELETED>

Dear Ms. <NAME DELETED>,

Thank you for your letter of September 12, 1991. I believe that you 
misunderstand the Student Due Process Policy. This policy applies 
only when the University (or another charging party) seeks to discipline
a student. "Discipline" consists of expulsion, suspension, probation, etc. 

At present, no one is seeking to discipline you. If the neccessity should
arise to do so, the Student Due Process Policy will certainly apply, since
academic disciplinary actions cannot be taken without compliance with
the Policy.

What has happened is that the C&IT has declined to facilitate your access
to the computer because of your past history of abusing the University
computing system. In light of that history, C&IT is not obliged to 
continue to do business with you. 

Yours Very Truly, 

Wesley Steele
Manager, C&IT Security/Standards.

------< END OF LETTER>-----

As you can see, this all took place in 1991, so I don't think things are
any different.