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Article #63Re: Wayne State University's Bad Behavior Continues Unabated....
From: Carl M. Kadie
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 21:22
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 21:22
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jp@tygra.Michigan.COM (John Palmer) writes: >-----<BEGINNING OF LETTER>------- >September 23, 1991 ><NAME OF STUDENT DELETED> >Dear Ms. <NAME DELETED>, >Thank you for your letter of September 12, 1991. I believe that you >misunderstand the Student Due Process Policy. This policy applies >only when the University (or another charging party) seeks to discipline >a student. "Discipline" consists of expulsion, suspension, probation, etc. [...] ================================= Ohio State University used the same kind of Humpty Dumpty redefinition of words when they expelled Steven Brack from the computer. (We are not authorized to punish you, therefore the stuff we did to you must not be punishment.) I'm confident that if such a case every got the court, the University would lose. - Carl ANNOTATED REFERENCES (All these documents are available on-line. Access information follows.) ================= law/goss-v-lopez.fischer ================= Comments from _Teacher's and the Law_, 3rd edition, by Louis Fischer, et al. Published in 1991 by Longman. It reports that the Supreme Court says that some modicum of due process is necessary unless the matter is trivial or there is an emergency. ================= law/goss-v-lopez.mnookin ================= Comments from _In the Interest of Children_, R. Mnookin (Ed.), Franklin E. Zimring and Rayman L. Solomon (Contrib. Authors). It reports that the Supreme Court says that some modicum of due process is necessary unless the matter is trivial or there is an emergency. Also, ================= law/constraints.constitutional ================= Comments from _A Practical Guide to Legal Issues Affecting College Teachers_ by Partrica A. Hollander, D. Parker Young, and Donald D. Gehring. (College Administration Publication, 1985). Discusses the constitutional constraints on public universities including the requires for freedom of expression, freedom against unreasonable searches and seizures, due process, specific rules. ================= cases/brack@acs.ohio-state.edu ================= All the early notes from CAF-talk related to Steven Brack, Ohio State, and Academic Computer Services. ================= cases/brack@ohio-state.edu ================= The letters from Ohio State University to Steven Brack including his letter of dismissial. Also comments on the letters. ================= ================= These document(s) are available by anonymous ftp (the preferred method) and by email. To get the file(s) via ftp, do an anonymous ftp to ftp.eff.org (192.88.144.4), and get file(s): pub/academic/law/goss-v-lopez.fischer pub/academic/law/goss-v-lopez.mnookin pub/academic/law/constraints.constitutional pub/academic/cases/brack@acs.ohio-state.edu pub/academic/cases/brack@ohio-state.edu To get the file(s) by email, send email to archive-server@eff.org. Include the line(s) (be sure to include the space before the file name): send acad-freedom/law goss-v-lopez.fischer send acad-freedom/law goss-v-lopez.mnookin send acad-freedom/law constraints.constitutional send acad-freedom/cases brack@acs.ohio-state.edu send acad-freedom/cases brack@ohio-state.edu -- Carl Kadie -- I do not represent EFF; this is just me. =kadie@eff.org, kadie@cs.uiuc.edu =
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Newsgroups: mi.misc,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,comp.org.eff.talk Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!caen!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!eff!kadie From: kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie) Subject: Re: Wayne State University's Bad Behavior Continues Unabated.... Message-ID: <1992Sep8.212232.16054@eff.org> Originator: kadie@eff.org Sender: usenet@eff.org (NNTP News Poster) Nntp-Posting-Host: eff.org Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation References: <1992Sep2.224208.4868@vela.acs.oakland.edu> <1992Sep6.043713.28754@tygra.Michigan.COM> <1992Sep7.022305.23714@cs.wayne.edu> <1992Sep8.171858.8639@tygra.Michigan.COM> Distribution: usa Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:22:32 GMT Lines: 95