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Mon, 10 Oct 2005 02:38
MimarSinan InstallAWARE - Read before you buy!
Author: theintrepidfox
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 02:38
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 02:38
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Dear Group My personal review of MimarSinan InstallAWARE Studio 2005 SE as a courtesy for everyone considering evaluating or buying this product. There are many reviews out there praising the products features so I thought I may add my own review, information collected while creating a project in a live environment. I've to say, at first glance this product has a lot to offer and seems to be a better choice than InstallShield Professional which I evaluated at the same time. InstallAWARE's pricing is also very competitive. On overall, this is a product with some quirks. One will get used to them quickly. I appreciate that no produt is perfect and apprecite when a software vendor takes a greater emphasis on robustness rather than the UI and I hope that this product becomes more UI compliant as a user would expect over the years to come. It's most powerful feature are with no doubt the script editor as well as the flexibility in designing dialogs. However, I've reservations and serious concerns about the level of support being available and having received and if I had this known before I certainly would not recommend this product despite its features and price unless there's reassurance by MimarSinan that they will improve in this matter. The company seems to consist of only its founder, Sinan Karaca. At least that is my impression as all support emails I receive come from his email address. This raises concerns what the situation will be if that only person becomes ill. Another disappointing experience was the quality of support received. As I mentioned, as a developer I appreciate that no software is perfect as long as this is backed up by keen and pro-active support striving to resolve any issues. >From my emails to support I didn't get the impression that the company is actually too interested and an 'error by trial' policy seems to be in place. I could tolerate this for complex problems and sure would try this myself before contacting support but if it was in fact the company founder who provided me with this level of support regarding issues that seem to be obviously a malfunction in their application then I start wondering how much they really appreciate their customers apart from just paying for the product. Before you contact support one might however consult the InstallAWARE Help or Support Forum. Help provides basic information to most common questions but I found that many object properties which I came across on a regular basis are not listed. One of the biggest drawbacks after support in my opinion. Consulting the support forum did not yield more answers to my questions apart from not very detailed replies or the information that this has never been reported before and therefore must not be the products fault. In general, most issues seem to be the customers problem and any of my suggestions that it migt indeed a problem with the product and any offered assistance in investigating this issue further were turned down by InstallAWARE with the response that I can either pay for professional consultancy or that I can find the answer in going through their sample applications. May I point out that I never expected them to do my project for me and as having worked in support myself very well know what falls in the category consultancy/training or support. Not satisfiying but tolerable if the sample I'm directed to actually had addressed my problem. However, in one instance for a Button.click event a Checkbox.Value sample was suggested. Summed up, InstallAWARE support email responses might be quick, on average instant to 8hrs but the quality of support, the help and online forum has to be questioned. Just as final point to add, one might stick to email requests as any call to the company I made was answered by an answering machine and the one request for a callback was never returned. Despite InstallAWARE providing the option of phone support on their website. I might also add, that I tried both numbers, the one in San Francisco, California and the one in Turkey which can be found on the MirmarSinan website during the countries respective business hours. I hope that this is informative to anyone considerating or using InstallAWARE. I certainly will keep you updated should I have more information in the future and let you know of any improvements I notice. Please note that my case might be just an exception and I invite everyone to try for themselves. Best Regards, Martin N Feuersteiner Invent2b - Innovative Property Business Solutions
Re: MimarSinan InstallAWARE - Read before you buy!
Author: DJ
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:19
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:19
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<theintrepidfox@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1128911928.623353.173510@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > Dear Group > > My personal review of MimarSinan InstallAWARE Studio 2005 SE as a > courtesy for everyone considering evaluating or buying this product. > There are many reviews out there praising the products features so I > thought I may add my own review, information collected while creating a > project in a live environment. > > I've to say, at first glance this product has a lot to offer and seems > to be a better choice than InstallShield Professional which I evaluated > at the same time. InstallAWARE's pricing is also very competitive. > > On overall, this is a product with some quirks. One will get used to > them quickly. I appreciate that no produt is perfect and apprecite when > a software vendor takes a greater emphasis on robustness rather than > the UI and I hope that this product becomes more UI compliant as a user > would expect over the years to come. > It's most powerful feature are with no doubt the script editor as well > as the flexibility in designing dialogs. > > However, I've reservations and serious concerns about the level of > support being available and having received and if I had this known > before I certainly would not recommend this product despite its > features and price unless there's reassurance by MimarSinan that they > will improve in this matter. > > The company seems to consist of only its founder, Sinan Karaca. At > least that is my impression as all support emails I receive come from > his email address. This raises concerns what the situation will be if > that only person becomes ill. > > Another disappointing experience was the quality of support received. > As I mentioned, as a developer I appreciate that no software is perfect > as long as this is backed up by keen and pro-active support striving to > resolve any issues. > >>From my emails to support I didn't get the impression that the company > is actually too interested and an 'error by trial' policy seems to be > in place. I could tolerate this for complex problems and sure would try > this myself before contacting support but if it was in fact the company > founder who provided me with this level of support regarding issues > that seem to be obviously a malfunction in their application then I > start wondering how much they really appreciate their customers apart > from just paying for the product. > > Before you contact support one might however consult the InstallAWARE > Help or Support Forum. Help provides basic information to most common > questions but I found that many object properties which I came across > on a regular basis are not listed. One of the biggest drawbacks after > support in my opinion. Consulting the support forum did not yield more > answers to my questions apart from not very detailed replies or the > information that this has never been reported before and therefore must > not be the products fault. > > In general, most issues seem to be the customers problem and any of my > suggestions that it migt indeed a problem with the product and any > offered assistance in investigating this issue further were turned down > by InstallAWARE with the response that I can either pay for > professional consultancy or that I can find the answer in going through > their sample applications. May I point out that I never expected them > to do my project for me and as having worked in support myself very > well know what falls in the category consultancy/training or support. > > Not satisfiying but tolerable if the sample I'm directed to actually > had addressed my problem. However, in one instance for a Button.click > event a Checkbox.Value sample was suggested. > > Summed up, InstallAWARE support email responses might be quick, on > average instant to 8hrs but the quality of support, the help and online > forum has to be questioned. > > Just as final point to add, one might stick to email requests as any > call to the company I made was answered by an answering machine and the > one request for a callback was never returned. Despite InstallAWARE > providing the option of phone support on their website. > I might also add, that I tried both numbers, the one in San Francisco, > California and the one in Turkey which can be found on the MirmarSinan > website during the countries respective business hours. > > I hope that this is informative to anyone considerating or using > InstallAWARE. I certainly will keep you updated should I have more > information in the future and let you know of any improvements I > notice. Please note that my case might be just an exception and I > invite everyone to try for themselves. > > Best Regards, > > Martin N Feuersteiner > Invent2b - Innovative Property Business Solutions > Try innosetup, it is free with good news support and many users. Donations to the product developer are of course gratefully received.
Re: MimarSinan InstallAWARE - Read before you buy!
Author: Pkefal
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:26
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:26
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Could you please stop being such a child? We are sick of reading your lameness over the groups.I've already read this to around 10 or 12 groups.If you're a competitor or you have personal differences with IA author, we really don't care. I use IA the last year, i'm really satisfied with the product and the support of it.As i said in other groups, i really don't care if it's only 1 person behind the scenes.I love this product and i'll continue using it and of course pay for it. If you are looking for a personal setup developer embedded with the product, sorry, but you won't find it anywhere! The guys at MimarSinan are proffesionals and this is what i like.You're NOT a proffesional and i'm shame of myself that you call yourself a software engineer! Please stop it!I'm sick of reading your cr*p all over the groups i'm registered to.
Re: MimarSinan InstallAWARE - Read before you buy!
Author: Joep
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:33
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:33
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<theintrepidfox@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1128911928.623353.173510@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > The company seems to consist of only its founder, Sinan Karaca. At > least that is my impression as all support emails I receive come from > his email address. This raises concerns what the situation will be if > that only person becomes ill. > Probably there are many one-man software/shareware development companies, my own comapny included till about a year ago. And now, that I have a business partner, still all support emails are sent from one address. -- Joep
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