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fastluck@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> 
> There's something else.  First, let me qualify this: I haven't tried JBuilder
> 2.0 yet.  But I have tried Visual J++ 6.0, and for writing Windows code and
> using COM objects written in another language, it makes things really easy.
> Imho, it may be the ultimate Windows programming language.

I agree, it is the best WINDOWS development tool from MS so far.
Whether it is the best Windows development tool at all is up to
everyone to decide, I have too little experience with it and might
favor other factors.

It is not a JAVA development tool IMO as it lacks basic features
I expect from a Java tool, like support for Java Beans and complete
support of the Java API.

> As far as WORA is concerned, Guy's hit the nail on the head.  JBuilder would
> probably be a better choice.  It looks to me like the "Visual" part of Visual
> J++ generates code dependent on Windows.  It depends on what you want--I
> personally don't care about WORA.  I'm a Windows programmer.

That's your choice, if I wouldn't care for WORA I might use VJ++ too, 
it definitely is better than VB or VC++ (which I personally dislike 
strongly because of their lack of quality/common sense).

I cannot recommend VJ++ as anything but a windows dev-tool though.
It definitely is among the worst Java dev-tools and continually tries
to lock you into MS-only Java (the GUI builder for example cannot
use anything but the WFC and ActiveX components..)


> > > >dbalok@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I am looking for some advice.  Which is better, Micro$oft's Visual J++ or
> > > >> Borland's JBuilder?  and what makes it more better?
> > > >
> > > >JBuilder 2.0 without the slightest doubt.
> > > >
> > > >For one thing it has a far better IDE and visual modeler, for
> > > >another it supports both JDK 1.1 and the 1.2 beta (while J++ 1.1
> > > >does not even truly support 1.1).
> > > >
> > > >But most of all because JBuilder generates Java code whereas J++
> > > >(any version) tries to lock you into MSes non-compatible version
> > > >of Java.
> > > >
> > > >If you want to generate Java code, J++ is not the right tool, it's
> > > >a non-Java compatible Java IDE !
> > > >
> > > > -Mike
> >
> > --
> > Guy Scharf
> > Software Architects, Inc.
> > Mountain View, CA
> > Developing software for ISVs
> >
> 
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