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Thread initially posted in the following NGs:

From: Adam (adam@no_thanks.com)
Subject: Re: missing Multimedia in Control Panel - CD Player works but Sound Recorder does not -
please help
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.multimedia, microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,
microsoft.public.win98.setup, microsoft.public.mshardware.product
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Wow!  PCR, thanks for taking the time to help.


> You've made progress. I've seen threads like this, but I'm no expert.
> If no one comes into this thread with true help,
> then start a new one specific to the install of SB Live!.
> Obviously, it hasn't completed.

Okay, will do.  Yes, something is interfering with
the sound card installation (most likely things to do with
the previous ESS Maestro-3i onboard sound installation).


> (1) Did you disable the onboard ESS Maestro-3i in BIOS?
>
>       I've only read of the possibility. I have ESS Allegro-1 onboard,
>       with no option to disable it there.

Unfortunately, that's the case for me also.  There's no option to
disable onboard sound from the BIOS.  Hopefully,
there are other ways to fix this.


> (2) In "R-Clk My Computer, Properties, Device Manager,
> Sound Video & Game Controllers", does the ESS guy show up?
> Did you D-Clk it for Properties & check to "Disable in this hardware profile"?
>
>      Maybe wait for someone else to suggest that one.

Huh?  Wait for who?

No, no more ESS anything (not even in Safe Mode).  Finally!


> (3)  See step (4), below.

Which step (4) below?  There are two.


> (4) Look up SB Live! at
> http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search?hl=en
> I know there have been threads about it.

Whew!  Almost got lost in the numbering.  Or, did I?

Anyways, have been doing lots of searching there and
didn't find much about getting rid of onboard sound from
ESS.  But, I'll keep trying.


> Here are some diagnostic tools to pick & choose from.

> (1) "START, Run, DRWATSON"; now, click it's button in the Tray.
>       What diagnosis is on the first tab?

Dr. Watson says the following:

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Adobe Type Manager has altered Windows system files.

Module Name: ATMSYS.DRV
Description: Adobe Type Manager
Version: R v4.00-32S058G06NN
Product: Adobe Type Manager
Manufacturer: Adobe Systems Incorporated

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<unknown> has altered Windows system files.

Module Name: <unknown>

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If the Taskbar is behaving strangely, try exiting Internat.

Module Name: INTERNAT.EXE
Description: Internat
Version: 4.80.3008.1
Product: Microsoft(R) Windows NT(R) Operating System
Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation
--------------------

all of which seems okay to me.


> (2) Close all open windows; "START, Run, DxDiag".
>       This is the DirectX Diagnostic Tool. Could it have a message?

Didn't notice anything unusual there.  And,
the "Music" tab says "No problems found".


> (3) R-Clk My Computer, Properties, Performance tab.
>       Are you "optimal" or "compatibility".

"optimal"


> (4) R-Clk My Computer, Properties, Device Manager tab.
>       Are there red/yellow ?'s/!'s on any icons? (If you end up in
>   blank Windows Help Troubleshooting screens,
>   they can easily be restored: "START, Find, F&F, Tshoot.inf";
>   R-Clk it & select "Install".)

There used to be problems but I was finally able to
get rid of the error and warning flags somehow.
It's a long story involving many reinstalls, booting into Safe Mode,
selectively editing the (Enum key in the) registry, etc.
But, the Device Manager tab looks very clean now.


Okay, I need to stop here for now.  I'll try steps (5) - (9) when
I get a chance and respond in a later posting.


> (5) "START, Run, MSInfo32, Tools tab, IE Repair Tool".
>       E & IE are closely related. However, I'm not sure it does all that much,
>       and some do report it crashes on their machine, apparently in
>       an orderly manner. It does produce a rather long "Fix IE Log.txt" in
>       C:\Windows. It wouldn't hurt to go to Windows Update afterwards,
>       but it offered nothing to me as a result.
> (6) http://www.pcmag.com/ 's BHOCop may find a Browser Helper Object.
> These are supposedly useful, but may be poorly written and conflict with
> each other or Explorer, to which they are attached.
> (7) "START, Shut Down, Restart in MS-DOS Mode"; enter "Scanreg /fix".
>      The Registry is involved with nearly everything. (Won't work for
>      a Registry around 9 MB huge.)
> (8) Update & check for viruses and
> http://patrick.kolla.de/spybotsd.html SpyBot- Search & Destroy, or
> http://www.lavasoftusa.com/ AdAware
> http://www.lavasoftusa.de/ Also AdAware may find something.
> (Actually, they certainly will.)
> (9) "START, Run, SFC"
> However, this tool needs a priming, which basically means to
> accept all current changes. You may look through the log,
> C:\Windows\SFCLOG.TXT, to see what it's done. Also,
> there is a certain amount of confusion involved with it,
> under the best of circumstances.
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q185836 System File Checker
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;q192832 SFC extracts wrong file
> http://www.westelcom.com/users/rogersr/sfc.htm  SFC problems

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Thanks & Good Luck,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net



"Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
news:yRlS9.6294$l9.325092486@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
|
| Well, I'm not sure which of the following:
|
| 1) commenting out old ATI-related drivers (
|     ;VIDC.YVU9=IYVU9.DLL
|     ;VPM=ATIVM6XX.DLL
|     ;VIDC.YVU9=ATIYVU9.DLL
|     ) from "system.ini"
| 2) extracting missing files ("ksuser.dll", "stream.sys") with SFC
| 3) installing DirectX 8.1
|
| was significant.  Anyone know?  But, the Multimedia icon is
| no longer missing from the Control Panel.
| However, sound is still only working "partially".
| The "Audio" and "MIDI" tabs in Multimedia Properties are
| all grayed out.
|
| I have the Creative SB Live! 5.1 (SB0100) and
| Creative Diagnostics says:
| "You do not have Creative SB Live! installed in you computer".
| And, Creative Surround Mixer says:
| "Failed to load Plugins".
|
| Prior to the Creative SB Live! 5.1 sound card,
| I used to have onboard sound (ESS Maestro-3i).
| How do I make sure that the old onboard sound device drivers are
| removed?
|
|
|
| "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> wrote in message
| news:DMsP9.473$r51.33930339@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
| >
| > Any multimedia/sound gurus out there?
| >
| > I just found the following post:
| >
| > ==============================================================
| > From: Adam Best (adam@abest.co.uk)
| > Subject: Re: Missing multimedia icon
| > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.win98.multimedia
| > Date: 1999/11/14
| >
| > In your original message on  Fri, 12 Nov 1999 11:37:55 -1000  Don lebow wrote:
| > > To check if it's still functional, you can try running it directly from Start
| > > | Run, using this as a command line:
| > >
| > > control.exe mmsys.cpl
| >
| > Thanks Don,
| >
| > I reinstalled 98 SE over the top, and was pleased to find this still seems to
| > leave all my registry entries for installed apps present. This replaced the
| > multimedia icon.
| >
| > I have gone to 98 from NT as I wasnted USB support for a web cam, cannot get the
| > camera to initialise although USB works fine with a mouse etc.
| >
| > If anyone here has the Intel create and share and has had the same problem,
| > please let me know.
| >
| > Thanks
| >
| > Adam
| >
| > (not done yet ... keep reading)
| > ==============================================================
| >
| > Anyone foresee any problems with reinstalling Win98 SE over
| > an existing but slightly problematic Win98 SE installation?
| > Or, better yet, are there any links out there with step-by-step
| > instructions on reinstalling Win98 SE over an existing Win98 SE installation?
| >
| > Thanks!
| >
| >
| >
| > "Davo" <ceramicus@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
| > news:212ad01c29994$3e970790$8af82ecf@TK2MSFTNGXA03...
| > >
| > >   I have the same problem - nobody in this part of the
| > > world seems to have the solution, apart from the 'reinstall
| > > Windows solution'. Mine was caused by a Norton A/V live
| > > update. Would appreciate any advice you may have recieved
| > > through the newsgroup.
| > > Tks  Davo
| > >
| >
| >
| > ----- Original Message -----
| > From: "YLW" <no_reply@ylw.com>
| > Newsgroups:
| >
|
microsoft.public.win98.multimedia,microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.win98.setup
| > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 10:07 AM
| > Subject: missing Multimedia in Control Panel - CD Player works but Sound Recorder does not -
| please
| > help
| >
| >
| > >
| > > I can't seem to get Multimedia back into Control Panel.
| > >
| > > My system is running Win98 SE.
| > >
| > > When I check/select Multimedia in
| > > Control Panel -> Add/Remove Programs -> Windows Setup,
| > > I specify the directory:
| > > C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS
| > > when prompted for:
| > > imaadp32.acm;WIN98_22.CAB
| > >
| > > Then, I get the message:
| > > RUNDLL
| > > Error loading mmsys.cpl
| > > A device attached to the system is not functioning
| > >
| > > And, CD Player works but Sound Recorder does not work.
| > > When a WAV file is opened with Sound Recorder,
| > > I get the message:
| > > "Sound Recorder cannot record or play back because
| > > a sound device is not installed.  To install a sound device,
| > > click 'Add New Hardware' in Control Panel."
| > > But, the Device Manager list looks okay.
| > > Also, the Play button in Sound Recorder is disabled.
| > > What's wrong?
| > >
| > > Thank you for your attention.
| > >