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In article <7qg0p8$5an$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  hcmf@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > <john_37@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7qcemv$k2h$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > > D&M Tools Twickenham - 0181 892 3813 ~�100 cheaper than Price
Tools
> > > The Woodcut Trading Company 0800 378027 ~�30 cheaper than Price
> Tools
> > > MTS Power Tools 01604 751688 ~�30 cheaper than Price Tools
> > > Powertek 01932 250295 ~�30 cheaper than Price Tools
>
> We'd be grateful if you could actually identify the product number of
> the tool involved so we can check your claims for accuracy.It's easy
> to bandy figures about whilst not using the actual product involved in
> your argument

The information I used is in the public domain - woodworking magazines
and one freely available price list. You state that you want to check
my claim for accuracy - perhaps you think I'm lying - so you want me
to share the information (about your prices in comparison with your
competitors), which I spent time gathering in order to prove to you that
I'm not lying.

I've only got one thing to say to that - but being a civilised
sort of chap I won't!, and neither will I tell you to which tool I'm
referring.

I also won't tell you for a further two reasons
      1) You ought to know the prices your competitors are charging.
         I only looked at the prices for one power tool.It shouldn't
         take you very long to find it.
      2) I worry that rather than reducing your prices, you may pressure
         national distributors to cut supply to the competitors who
         substantially undercut you. I'm intending to make a substantial
         purchase imminently and I would like to be able to buy at as
         low a price as possible.

> > > In addition - none of the above companies spam newsgroups.

> Neither do we. Any newsgroup we appear on has a business-public or
> public-public advertising bias. We value our relationship with our ISP
> too much to indulge in multiple spamming and as recipients of spam
> ourselves would not subject others to completely irrelevant data. Note
> the newsgroups involved. The word advert is there for a reason,
> surely?

You obviously value your relation to your ISP more than potential
customers - why don't you abide by the charter and refrain from
describing your prices as good value when at least one of your products
is nearly 50% more expensive than your competitors?.

> Could it be that my accuser be a front for Price Tool Sales who
> have been spamming many newsgroups with overpriced tool adverts?.

> Again, we think your comment regarding spam is incorrect. The same
> goes for your comment regarding overpricing, which is somewhat missing
> the point. We do not promote ourselves as a bargain basement
> 'pile-em-high & sell-'em-quick' operation, nor  would that be the type
> of image we would wish to promote. We're sure some products we
> advertise are available cheaper elsewhere. That's the nature of
> commerce, and we would be outright liars to claim otherwise. Bur we
> DO offer ALL our customers a high quality, good value service across
> the board.

You may very well offer a high quality service - although if you don't
know the prices your competitors charge I don't see that you can claim
to offer a good value service. Looking through the ads in a
woodworking magazine you seem to be only �10 less than the most
expensive vendor for this tool.


John


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