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Neil (neil@njmcov.demon.co.uk) wrote:
) I am constructing a website based around the pathetic performance of 
) Coventry City Council.

well since I had a tour of the bus station on the way to the hospital my
only gripe is the road-signs coming off the ring-road.

RjL
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In article <6110oo$i2t@illuin.demon.co.uk>, Richard Letts
<richard@illuin.demon.co.uk> writes
>well since I had a tour of the bus station on the way to the hospital my
>only gripe is the road-signs coming off the ring-road.

And were they observing the speed limit?
-- 
Larry 

In article <422915429wnr@njmcov.demon.co.uk>, Neil
<neil@njmcov.demon.co.uk> writes
>I am constructing a website based around the pathetic performance of 
>Coventry City Council.

The "pathetic performance" you cite in your posting reads more like a
list of personal gripes. The council probably banned the selling of
drinks after 2.00 am to prevent a lot of drunken revellers disgorging
onto the streets at 4.00 am. Bans on street drinking, provided that they
are backed up by adequate care and support services for people with
alcohol problems, can rid the area of louts who assault visitors and
residents alike. If your favourite pub hasn't got an exception, it
should apply for one. The council is well within its rights to aim for a
mix of development in the city centre, rather than have wall-to-wall
nightclubs and pubs. The police, of course, are not the council's
responsibility (contact the local Police Authority). Finally you talk
about "exposing the bastards" and getting "dirt" on them. Most local
councillors I know are hard-working people who are genuinely concerned
about the communities they represent. If you disagree with their
decisions by all means say so, protest, and vote them out of office. The
methods you advocate won't be anywhere near as successful.

By the way, I have no idea which political party runs Coventry City
Council, nor do I suppose that the council never gets things wrong. I'm
responding to your posting because I beleive councillors of all parties
deserve more respect than shown in your post.
-- 
Paul H Griffiths                      Constituency Agent for
paulg@worcesterlibdems.demon.co.uk    Worcester Liberal Democrats

john@nojunkplse.dasl.demon.co.uk (john@nojunkplse.dasl.demon.co.uk) wrote:
) On Tue, 30 Sep 1997 14:23:25 , Neil <neil@njmcov.demon.co.uk> wrote:
) 
) >I am constructing a website based around the pathetic performance of 
) >Coventry City Council.
) 
) I strongly suggest you tune in to Radio West Midlands.

the Ed Doolan show? A classic in putting the offical on the spot!
[however I find he grates on my nerves after an hour]

RjL
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john@nojunkplse.dasl.demon.co.uk <john@nojunkplse.dasl.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >I am constructing a website based around the pathetic performance of 
> >Coventry City Council.
> 
> I strongly suggest you tune in to Radio West Midlands.

Can we get it on RealAudio? ;-)

Cheers


Jon
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On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Paul H Griffiths wrote:

> In article <422915429wnr@njmcov.demon.co.uk>, Neil
> <neil@njmcov.demon.co.uk> writes
> >I am constructing a website based around the pathetic performance of 
> >Coventry City Council.
> 
> The "pathetic performance" you cite in your posting reads more like a
> list of personal gripes. The council probably banned the selling of
> drinks after 2.00 am to prevent a lot of drunken revellers disgorging
> onto the streets at 4.00 am. Bans on street drinking, provided that they
> are backed up by adequate care and support services for people with
> alcohol problems, can rid the area of louts who assault visitors and
> residents alike. If your favourite pub hasn't got an exception, it
> should apply for one. The council is well within its rights to aim for a
> mix of development in the city centre, rather than have wall-to-wall
> nightclubs and pubs. The police, of course, are not the council's
> responsibility (contact the local Police Authority). Finally you talk
> about "exposing the bastards" and getting "dirt" on them. Most local
> councillors I know are hard-working people who are genuinely concerned
> about the communities they represent. If you disagree with their
> decisions by all means say so, protest, and vote them out of office. The
> methods you advocate won't be anywhere near as successful.
> 
> By the way, I have no idea which political party runs Coventry City
> Council, nor do I suppose that the council never gets things wrong. I'm
> responding to your posting because I beleive councillors of all parties
> deserve more respect than shown in your post.
> -- 
> Paul H Griffiths                      Constituency Agent for
> paulg@worcesterlibdems.demon.co.uk    Worcester Liberal Democrats
> 
> 
You talk of Coventry Council not wanting "wall to wall nightclubs". 
You've obviously never been to Coventry. I grew up there, and it'd be 
nice if a City of it's size (300,00), had more than three nightclubs. And 
yes, banning drinking on the streets was an excellent idea; only, they 
are totally inflexible. A number of cafe/bars wanted to put chairs and 
tables out on the pavement during the summer. The council had no problem 
with that, but if some poor sod happened to be having a pint with his 
ploughman's, he'd get arrested. And this idea that stopping drinking at 
2am on licensed premises curbs violence just isn't true. Now nearly every 
place in Coventry with a late license kicks out at 2am, you still get 
fights - fights aren't premeditated, so the more pissed up idiots you 
have wandering the streets at the same time, the more likely it is that 
someone's going to get a kicking. it would make a lot more sense for the 
council to stagger the times of the major clubs (all three of them). That 
really would make a difference to violent crime in the city center.

Kerin.

Hiya kjc07@STUDENTS.stir.ac.uk,

08-Oct-97 06:49, kjc07@STUDENTS.stir.ac.uk wrote to All
          Subject: Re: Coventry City Council - Info wanted for new website

 k> are totally inflexible. A number of cafe/bars wanted to put chairs and
 k> tables out on the pavement during the summer. The council had no problem
 k> with that, but if some poor sod happened to be having a pint with his
 k> ploughman's, he'd get arrested. And this idea that stopping drinking at
 k> 2am on licensed premises curbs violence just isn't true. Now nearly every
 k> place in Coventry with a late license kicks out at 2am, you still get
 k> fights - fights aren't premeditated, so the more pissed up idiots you
 k> have wandering the streets at the same time, the more likely it is that
 k> someone's going to get a kicking. it would make a lot more sense for the
 k> council to stagger the times of the major clubs (all three of them). That
 k> really would make a difference to violent crime in the city center.

Only one prob though, the nightclub that gets the latest license will be
the most popular (it's the one *I'd* choose to go to :-)).

I'd prefer no license times at all, since all a closing times seem to
acheive is to make people consume alchohol at a lot faster rate than they
normally would in an attempt to beat 'last orders'.

If there was no deadline to beat, then a lot of people would be a lot
more relaxed about drinking and wouldn't feel the need to consume so much
so rapidly, of course you'll always get those peeps that can't handle the
beer and cause trouble, but I don't think 'lincenses' would control those
kind of people anyway.

Regards,

/\/igel.

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