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10 total messages Started by neuron Sun, 21 Apr 2002 05:15
FS: Collectible Laptop Computer....$45/offer
#92
Author: neuron
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 05:15
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I have a "collectible" Zenith laptop computer for sale.

I say "collectible" because this is a featured item in the various
"computer museums" found on the Internet. It is one of the first truly
portable laptop computers.

Its a Zenith ZWL-184-97 (otherwise known as a 'Z-184')

Here's a couple of pics:

http://home.wi.rr.com/neurons/zenith_open.jpg

http://home.wi.rr.com/neurons/zenith_closed.jpg

The computer works fine. I got a compatible power supply for it at
American Science and Surplus. (thank you to those who responded to my
post on adapters)

I am asking $45. If Interested, please contact me at:

neuron@wi.rr.com

Here's a basic rundown on the features:

Processor: 8OC88-2 CMOS 16-bit processor.

Type: 16-bit internal.

Clock speed: Switch selected: 4.77 MHz (O wait states) or 8 MHz (1
wait state memory, 2 wait states 1/0).

Coprocessor: Optional 8087 numeric data coprocessor.

Memory: 1M dynamic RAM total standard. (256-kilobit x 4 devices). 640
system RAM, 2K scratch RAM area.

Display: LCD device.

Capacity: 80 x 25 characters in text mode. 640 x 200 pixels in
graphics mode. PC-compatible in normal text and graphics
mode.

Sound-. Miniature transducer.

Input/output
Serial port: Asynchronous serial RS-232C port (DB-9 connector). 1
start bit, 7- or 8-bit word length, 1 or 2 stop bits.
Selectable baud rates of 110, 150, 300, 600, 1200, 2400, 4800, or 9600
baud. RD, CTS, DSR, CD signals recognized. TD,
RTS, DTR control signals generated. Half- or full-duplex operation.

Parallel port-. Centronics-type parallel output port (DB-25
connector).

Video: Composite (monochrome) video and RGB (color) video with
intensity signals. Output for both signals is through a single
9-pin connector.

Modem: RJ-1 1 modular line and telephone connectors. Optional modems:
300/1200 baud (Hayes 1200B compatible) and
300/1200/2400 (Hayes 1200B compatible at 300 or 1200 baud and Hayes
2400 compatible at 2400 baud).

Floppy disk drives: 3.5-inch double-sided, double-density. Formatted
capacity of 720K per drive, 135 tpi, 9 sectors per
track. Write-protection recognized.

Port for optional external 5.25-inch double-sided, double-density
floppy disk drive. Formatted capacity of 360K per drive, 48 tpi, 9
sectors per track. Write-protection recognized.

Hard disk drive: 3.5-inch 20M capacity.

Keyboard-. 78 keys: 60-key alphanumeric typewiter arrangement with
four multifunction keys, four cursor control keys, and
ten function keys. Full PC-compatibility maintained by using mode
switching and multiple keys to duplicate keypad and special
function key operation.
Re: FS: Collectible Laptop Computer....$45/offer
#93
Author: neuron
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 23:28
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Forgot to include a pic of what the display looks like. Here's one:
(This computer also supports an external monitor)

http://home.wi.rr.com/neurons/zenith_screen.jpg

neuron


On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 00:15:11 -0500, neuron <neuron@wi.rr.com> wrote:

>I have a "collectible" Zenith laptop computer for sale.
>
>I say "collectible" because this is a featured item in the various
>"computer museums" found on the Internet. It is one of the first truly
>portable laptop computers.
>
>Its a Zenith ZWL-184-97 (otherwise known as a 'Z-184')
>
>Here's a couple of pics:
>
>http://home.wi.rr.com/neurons/zenith_open.jpg
>
>http://home.wi.rr.com/neurons/zenith_closed.jpg
>
>The computer works fine. I got a compatible power supply for it at
>American Science and Surplus. (thank you to those who responded to my
>post on adapters)
>
>I am asking $45. If Interested, please contact me at:
>
>neuron@wi.rr.com
>
>Here's a basic rundown on the features:
>
>Processor: 8OC88-2 CMOS 16-bit processor.
>
>Type: 16-bit internal.
>
>Clock speed: Switch selected: 4.77 MHz (O wait states) or 8 MHz (1
>wait state memory, 2 wait states 1/0).
>
>Coprocessor: Optional 8087 numeric data coprocessor.
>
>Memory: 1M dynamic RAM total standard. (256-kilobit x 4 devices). 640
>system RAM, 2K scratch RAM area.
>
>Display: LCD device.
>
>Capacity: 80 x 25 characters in text mode. 640 x 200 pixels in
>graphics mode. PC-compatible in normal text and graphics
>mode.
>
>Sound-. Miniature transducer.
>
>Input/output
>Serial port: Asynchronous serial RS-232C port (DB-9 connector). 1
>start bit, 7- or 8-bit word length, 1 or 2 stop bits.
>Selectable baud rates of 110, 150, 300, 600, 1200, 2400, 4800, or 9600
>baud. RD, CTS, DSR, CD signals recognized. TD,
>RTS, DTR control signals generated. Half- or full-duplex operation.
>
>Parallel port-. Centronics-type parallel output port (DB-25
>connector).
>
>Video: Composite (monochrome) video and RGB (color) video with
>intensity signals. Output for both signals is through a single
>9-pin connector.
>
>Modem: RJ-1 1 modular line and telephone connectors. Optional modems:
>300/1200 baud (Hayes 1200B compatible) and
>300/1200/2400 (Hayes 1200B compatible at 300 or 1200 baud and Hayes
>2400 compatible at 2400 baud).
>
>Floppy disk drives: 3.5-inch double-sided, double-density. Formatted
>capacity of 720K per drive, 135 tpi, 9 sectors per
>track. Write-protection recognized.
>
>Port for optional external 5.25-inch double-sided, double-density
>floppy disk drive. Formatted capacity of 360K per drive, 48 tpi, 9
>sectors per track. Write-protection recognized.
>
>Hard disk drive: 3.5-inch 20M capacity.
>
>Keyboard-. 78 keys: 60-key alphanumeric typewiter arrangement with
>four multifunction keys, four cursor control keys, and
>ten function keys. Full PC-compatibility maintained by using mode
>switching and multiple keys to duplicate keypad and special
>function key operation.
Re: FS: Collectible Laptop Computer....$45/offer
#76
Author: TKR
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:29
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> On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 00:15:11 -0500, neuron <neuron@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> >I have a "collectible" Zenith laptop computer for sale.
> >
> >I say "collectible" because this is a featured item in the various
> >"computer museums" found on the Internet. It is one of the first truly
> >portable laptop computers.
Hi, 

How do I find out about "collectable" laptops? 
I have a couple of Zenith ones that are even older.
Thanks.
TKR


- - - - - -  Wheelchair lift equipped minivan for sale - - - - - - - -
     "Tacky but delightful"      Asking $3000, but look at it and offer.
400 pound limit on ATTENDANT-OPERATED (close it from outside)LIFT
Raised roof. Ford Aerostar Minivan, 1986. 100K.  spirit at cyberverse d com
Re: FS: Collectible Laptop Computer....$45/offer
#77
Author: Mark
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:56
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http://www.obsoletecomputermuseum.org/

check this out


"TKR" <spirit@cyberverse.com> wrote in message
news:df6a853e.0204250729.5483ce2e@posting.google.com...
> > On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 00:15:11 -0500, neuron <neuron@wi.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I have a "collectible" Zenith laptop computer for sale.
> > >
> > >I say "collectible" because this is a featured item in the various
> > >"computer museums" found on the Internet. It is one of the first truly
> > >portable laptop computers.
> Hi,
>
> How do I find out about "collectable" laptops?
> I have a couple of Zenith ones that are even older.
> Thanks.
> TKR
>
>
> - - - - - -  Wheelchair lift equipped minivan for sale - - - - - - - -
>      "Tacky but delightful"      Asking $3000, but look at it and offer.
> 400 pound limit on ATTENDANT-OPERATED (close it from outside)LIFT
> Raised roof. Ford Aerostar Minivan, 1986. 100K.  spirit at cyberverse d
com
Re: FS: Collectible Laptop Computer....$45/offer
#78
Author: neuron
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 17:32
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Thanks for posting that URL.

The "obsoletecomputermuseum" does in fact have the model Zenith laptop
I am selling here. I also found one in the UK and one in Russia.

This is item is, in fact, "collectible" because people are collecting
it. Furthermore, the model DOES represent a significant transition in
the development of consumer pc's.

I am convinced that if I had just posted the damn thing without
stating that it was "collectible"...I would have got many replies.

I am asking $45/offer here people. The thing works. It would be
interesting to have if you are a tinkerer, computer student,
collector, etc...

But even if not...it is STILL better to have than a simple electric
typewriter....you can do wordprocessing, spreadsheets...any number of
functions on it. And half of american homes still don't have ANY
computers.

I could see you guys flaming me if I was like, "this is collectible,
so I want $200 for it..."....but $45?....gimme a break!

neuron

On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:56:39 GMT, "Mark" <msevans@tds.net> wrote:

>http://www.obsoletecomputermuseum.org/
>
>check this out
>
>
>"TKR" <spirit@cyberverse.com> wrote in message
>news:df6a853e.0204250729.5483ce2e@posting.google.com...
>> > On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 00:15:11 -0500, neuron <neuron@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >I have a "collectible" Zenith laptop computer for sale.
>> > >
>> > >I say "collectible" because this is a featured item in the various
>> > >"computer museums" found on the Internet. It is one of the first truly
>> > >portable laptop computers.
>> Hi,
>>
>> How do I find out about "collectable" laptops?
>> I have a couple of Zenith ones that are even older.
>> Thanks.
>> TKR
>>
>>
>> - - - - - -  Wheelchair lift equipped minivan for sale - - - - - - - -
>>      "Tacky but delightful"      Asking $3000, but look at it and offer.
>> 400 pound limit on ATTENDANT-OPERATED (close it from outside)LIFT
>> Raised roof. Ford Aerostar Minivan, 1986. 100K.  spirit at cyberverse d
>com
>
Re: FS: Collectible Laptop Computer....$45/offer
#82
Author: Dave Moorman
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 21:04
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In article <XGVx8.3337$fH5.5058159@kent.svc.tds.net>,
 "Mark" <msevans@tds.net> wrote:

> http://www.obsoletecomputermuseum.org/
> 
> check this out


That was a nostalgia trip.  It was nice to see an Apple IIc and IIgs 
again, as well as a Commodore C128 - three computers in one!  But...no 
Timex computers?!  

Dave

-- 
Dave Moorman
Downers Grove,
Illinois  USA

Some men dream of fortunes, others dream of cookies.
Re: FS: Collectible Laptop Computer....$45/offer
#83
Author: Mark
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 22:00
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time to wax poetic about old computers?

I still use an SE/30, juiced with 32 meg-o-ram, system 7.5.5
had it networked to the iMac... and it got e-mail and sucked all sorts of
files back and forth with it's futuristic brethren...

Love those old luggables


"Dave Moorman" <dmoorman4@NOSPAMattbi.com> wrote in message
news:dmoorman4-E38560.16051325042002@netnews.attbi.com...
> In article <XGVx8.3337$fH5.5058159@kent.svc.tds.net>,
>  "Mark" <msevans@tds.net> wrote:
>
> > http://www.obsoletecomputermuseum.org/
> >
> > check this out
>
>
> That was a nostalgia trip.  It was nice to see an Apple IIc and IIgs
> again, as well as a Commodore C128 - three computers in one!  But...no
> Timex computers?!
>
> Dave
>
> --
> Dave Moorman
> Downers Grove,
> Illinois  USA
>
> Some men dream of fortunes, others dream of cookies.
Re: FS: Collectible Laptop Computer....$45/offer
#84
Author: Bao H. Lammy
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 22:15
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"Mark" <msevans@tds.net> wrote
> I still use an SE/30, juiced with 32 meg-o-ram, system 7.5.5
> had it networked to the iMac... and it got e-mail and sucked all sorts of
> files back and forth with it's futuristic brethren...

Sounds incestuous...
Re: FS: Collectible Laptop Computer....$45/offer
#85
Author: Emanuel Brown
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 07:17
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On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 12:32:53 -0500, neuron <neuron@wi.rr.com> wrote:
>I could see you guys flaming me if I was like, "this is collectible,
>so I want $200 for it..."....but $45?....gimme a break!

	Hey, it's Usenet - people get flamed for punctuation, their ISP,
their newsreader and/or web browser, their religious beliefs, race,
creed, melanin content; you simply aren't safe.
	As someone that's collected laptops, it's not all it's cracked up
to be. What's cool (if that's not impossible considering the subject
matter) is having it stock, as originally delivered. I get a wave of
nostalgia when I fire up my old Thinkpads and see Windows 3.1 booting,
then exit to DOS to play some DOOM for a bit.
	I think the "collect old computers" trend will go more towards
innovative laptop designs than watersheds of computer history. Stuff
like the IBM 701, Sony VAIO C1, HP200LX, Toshiba Libretto, Timex
Sinclair...stuff that had a high wow factor when released and still
impresses. The thing about laptops is that they've evolved more p
desktops are still pretty much the same beige boxes they always were.
	Emanuel
"Everybody wants a normal life and a cool car;
most people settle for the car." Chris Titus
http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/1966-rolls.jpg
http://home.att.net/~epbrown01/1983-porsche.jpg
Re: FS: Collectible Laptop Computer....$45/offer
#86
Author: The Korn
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 15:43
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I'm sorry.  I tried, but I just can't avoid posting this comment...

Emanuel Brown <epbrown01@att.net> wrote in message news:<u7vhcukuo3g871tdqlcl0lkflgpep94s2v@4ax.com>...
> 	I think the "collect old computers" trend will go more towards
> innovative laptop designs than watersheds of computer history. Stuff
> like the IBM 701, Sony VAIO C1, HP200LX, Toshiba Libretto, Timex
> Sinclair...stuff that had a high wow factor when released and still
> impresses. The thing about laptops is that they've evolved more p
> desktops are still pretty much the same beige boxes they always were.

You were impressed the first time you saw a sinclair????  I was seven,
and my reaction to it was, "wow, someone took a microwave controller
and added a TV display to it."
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