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Re: Photo ID to vote

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From: ~krp~
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 21:00
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"Bruno Wolff III" <bruno@cerberus.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message 
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>>>> RE: Photo ID to get on airplanes

>>>>>>> It does allow the government to track people moving
>>>>>>> about the country and helps the airlines make more money by not 
>>>>>>> allowing
>>>>>>> secondary ticket markets.

>>>>>> WHAT?  Where did you get this nonsense?
>>>>
>>>>> This has been public knowledge for a long time. If you want to see it 
>>>>> from
>>>>> an "expert", take a look at what Bruce Schneier has to say about it.
>>
>>>>     I am really wanting to see some "documentation: that that is the 
>>>> real
>>>> reason behind showing ID for flights. I tend to be real suspicious of
>>>> conspiracy theories that really tweak the tin foil hat element.

>>> Well, why don't you check out what Schneier has to say about it?
>
>> Why?  I don't find crackpots at all interesting reads.

> Schneier has credentials. He is a consultant to the US Federal government 
> in
> the evaluation of "Secure Flight".

He seems much more a legend in his own mind to me.  Has two websites where 
he touts himself as:

"Internationally-renowned security technologist and author Bruce Schneier is 
both a Founder and the Chief Technical Officer of Counterpane Internet 
Security, Inc. the world's leading protector of networked information - the 
inventor of outsourced security monitoring and the foremost authority on 
effective mitigation of emerging IT threats."

"Bruce Schneier is an internationally renowned security technologist and 
author. Described by The Economist as a "security guru," Schneier is best 
known as a refreshingly candid and lucid security critic and commentator. 
When people want to know how security really works, they turn to Schneier. "

Nice words he has for himself. I bet he is just blown away by his own 
power......  But he doesn't quite seem like a "DEEP INSIDER" into the real 
motivations of government in airline security. Seems his thing is more on 
codes and telecommunications security.  Care to share with is why you see 
him as being ULTRA ULTRA secret candidate type?

 
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