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Article #524Re: Dennett on WI Public Radio Today
From: Tushar Samant
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:25
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 00:25
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Carol Lee Smith <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, kenji wrote: > >> this Bright is rather MILFish, and a Southern Belle to boot: > > I don't know what MILFish means. > > And I don't consider Pennsylvania to be the deep south. You seem to be pretty deeply involved in this, for a fairly long time--in which case you must have encountered the "patronizing old man" character. Kenji has achieved that character at an impressively early age. Although not quite consistent yet, he dishes out quite a performance if the circumstances are right. It is unconscious, too, which makes for a more powerful effect. Allow me to explain these circumstances. First, the insistence of "brights" to shove atheism in everyone's face raises bile in a certain kind of person. (On the other hand, equally radically atheistic religions such as Buddhism, say, will not make the slightest impact on these people, because they are "religions", of which these people are quite tolerant.) Combine this with the rest of their personality and you get a standard-issue inarticulate jeering old fart, ready with the dumbest "logical objections" to atheists congregating etc. We have heard these jeers several times even on this group. Imagine then if a WOMAN is uppity enough to spout atheism. That goes against practically everything such a jeering man stands for. Naturally he will have nothing to say except call her a "hot little number" etc. There is no further content in that remark. Actually I am surprised that vague allusions to expensive education etc haven't surfaced, because they are also staples of these situations. Independent-thinking women better be quite prepared for no-thinking jeering men, in particular recognizing them quickly and ignoring them. (Take the case of abolitionist white women in the south--few things could be more calculated to rouse utter speechless fury given the time and place. Therefore, they were talked about as "liking it black", etc ... Sexual innuendo and jeering laughter are very good at blanking out the image of a thinking, talking woman.)
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