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On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, ~krp~ wrote:

> "Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message 
> news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1050302200555.14485E-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu...

> >> > Still no direct quotes have been offered of claims Kenneth R. Pangborn 
> >> > has said I have made, or of lies he accuses me of having offered.

> >> >> >> >> Churchill is not as important as he or you, think he is,

> >> >> >> > I have no way of knowing what Churchill is thinking.  Do you?

> >> >> > Answer the question.  Do you know what Churchill is thinking?

> >> >> His LOUD MOUTH negates the need for clairvoyance. He TELLS YOU!!!

> >> > So, share it with us, with adequate citation, of course.

> >> Carol are you brain dead?

> > Nope.

> Oh I think so. Or just a plain old varnished liar.

The archives are available to you.  Just provide the lies--direct quotes,
please, not your imagination of what you think someone is thinking.

> >> You can't shut that arrogant son of a  bitch up.  Her [sic] the jerkoff 
> >> speak at Whitewater day before Yesterday?  God -
> > he has diarrhea of the mouth.>>

> > If the allegations against Ward Churchill are proven to have merit, it is
> > up to the institution for which he works to deal with it.

> Carol he took writings of others and presented it as his own "scholarly 
> work." He also took art work, reproduced and sold it under his own name. He 
> has claimed Indian heritage when he has NONE!  How many lies do you need to 
> see befor [sic] you conclude the man is not worth listening to?

I have made no judgment on Ward Churchill.  It is not up to me to make
such a judgment, but if it were, I would not rely on newspaper reports as
evidence.

> > If he has commited perjury with regard to artwork, it is up to the
> > survivors of the artist in question to take Churchill to court for
> > satisfaction.

I have made no judgment on Ward Churchill.  It is not up to me to make
such a judgment, but if it were, I would not rely on newspaper reports as
evidence.  

>     Why? Why can't the rest of us conclude the man is a fraud?

I have made no conclusions about Ward Churchill.  It is not up to me to
make such a judgment, but if it were, I would not rely on newspaper
reports as evidence.  

> >> The following links were NEVER posted according to Carol Lee Smith on 
> >> 3-15-05

> > How do you know what I wrote on March 15, 2005?  Today is March 2, 2005.
> > Are you in some kind of time warp?

> Yes after observing you I know that sometimes before the 15th you will 
> ANGRILY DENY that I ever posted them.

You are welcome to post links to news reports of your choice.

If you claim they are evidence of anything, you will be proving you know
nothing about proof and evidence.

> > This news report has pictures of the art work in question:

> > http://news4colorado.com/topstories/local_story_055200531.html

> > It is possible that it hasn't been previously posted.

> And your comment on the rather OBVIOUS FRAUD??????? Of your HERO!

Please provide direct quotes of mine in which I have indicated Ward
Churchill is my HERO.

Likewise, provide any evidence that I have supported or endorsed Ward
Churchill, or that I have supported or endorsed plagiarism or dishonesty.