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Article #881Re: See & Hear Ward Churchill for Yourself - "Some People Push Back"
From: ~krp~
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:35
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:35
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"Carol Lee Smith" <human@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message news:Pine.OSF.3.96.1050222233429.3365G-100000@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu... > On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, krp wrote: > >> How much do we have to go past the FACT that he has NO Native American >> blood >> yet he claims to have? He claims to be one eighth Cherokee ancestry yet >> the >> Cherokee nation says "NOPE!" Shall we start there, or do you need more? > > > http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3525487,00.html You offer this in rebuttal to me??????? OKAY Carol.. Let's see what YOUR SOURCE really says............. "Ward Churchill traces part of his American Indian lineage to Joshua Tyner, a Revolutionary War veteran from Georgia. But Tyner listed himself on the 1820 census as "white," and historical documents report that his mother was killed and scalped by Creek Indians. " "Meanwhile, genealogy records researched by the Rocky Mountain News show that even if Joshua Tyner had been a full-blooded Indian, he would have provided Churchill with only one-sixty-fourth Indian blood. Nevertheless, the fiery Churchill - who maintains that he is at least one-sixteenth Cherokee - has fashioned a controversial career of activism and education over injustices to America's indigenous people." "I am not accountable for making the particulars of my genealogy public knowledge or to respond to interrogation from a Cheyenne or a Chippewa or the Bureau of Indian Affairs, as far as I'm concerned," Churchill said. He will not provide documentation of his heritage. " "I have never been confirmed as having one-quarter blood, and never said I was," Churchill said. "And even if (the critics) are absolutely right (about his lack of Indian ancestry), what does that have to do with this issue? I have never claimed to be goddamned Sitting Bull." (OH BUT HE HAS!!!! OH BUT HE HAS!!) "Officially, he maintains an associate membership, obtained in May 1994, from the United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians in Tahlequah, Okla., two months before the band stopped issuing such memberships amid controversy over whether they were merited." The band has "officially" revokes all those "honorary" memberships. "Churchill and his allies have feuded with other Indian leaders, including Vernon Bellecourt, of the National American Indian Movement. Bellecourt, his allies and some other researchers call Churchill a white man masquerading as an Indian." You didn't want anyone to SEE that, eh Carol? Not something you'd quote? "But there's no evidence Tyner had any Indian blood at all. Likewise, research by the News into Tyner family genealogy found no evidence that Joshua Tyner was an Indian. Historical accounts from Georgia, in fact, claim the Tyner family was attacked in 1788 or 1789 by Creek Indians while the father, Richard, was away in revenge for some official action a family member had taken against the Creeks. Joshua's mother, Abigail, was killed and scalped, along with several of her eight children." So? This proves "ME" wrong?
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