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pod@cadvision.com (Mariusz Zydyk) wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Dec 1996 04:51:18 GMT, dk@cadvision.com wrote:
>[...]

>[>WHAT DO YOU SMOKE ???

>------- Have you no better reply to what I said.... hmmm. obviously
>not.

>[> 95% OF PEOPLE ON JOBS RETIRE BROKE
>[>OR DO YOU DISPUTE STATS CAN?

>------- Well, I just heard and saw this morning on CTV a cute little
>fact. 1 out of 3 women retire in poverty (or broke as you like to
>refer to them). This means 30%. By very simple logic you can
>safely assume that men make more, so a smaller proportion of them
>retire broke. I don't see where your figure of 95% comes from.
  it comes from stats canada
dont assume .... quote fact please
GO TO LIBRARY AND READ IT
or just ask a mutual fund salesman!!!!!!!!!
better yet...ask an old person how much he gets.
can you live off of 12000 a year?


one more fact for  the ladies....32 years ago only 8 % of women worked
rite now84% work
The way i see it .... wages have not kept up with inflation 
it now takes two produce what one income did 32 years ago?
money doubles every ten years ...has your wage?






>[>>Seeing as most distributors are even below the 25% range, the
>[>>average income is well under $1000/yr.
WHAT IS YOUR SOURCE
ACCORDING TO THE CALGARY HEARLD IT IS MORE!!!!  april 95





>[> YEA SO LOOK AT EVERY THING ELSE
>[>SOME PEOPLE LIKE YOU CANNOT DO IT SO IT TAKE DOWN THE AVERAGE FOR TOP
>[>PRODUCERS.
>[>THE INACTIVE PRODUCERS ARE INCLUDED IN THIS

>------- Some people cannot make it in the economy on their own,
>so they take down the average for top producers. Because 2
>million (or whatever) joe blows sit on welfare, means that 2 million
>joe blows will retire broke. Are you including them in your 95%
>figure. You should not. Just as you suggest I should not count the
>'inactive' amway producers in my numbers.
now you got it
question is are YOU inactive?
the majority of canadians are DEPENDANT upon cpp or a pension.
you there forare DEPENDANT upon a state  or OTHER governing body 
for your livelyhood   ( no money no funny )
is this not WELFARE?

I thought that COMMUNISTS were dependant upon the state?
government controls us real good !!!!
Read .... you cant steel second with one foot on first.....by burke
hedges( NON AMWAY}
should I count you?
>Amway is quite happy to quote numbers which include ALL of their
>distributors when saying how big their business is. Yet when it comes
>to per capita averages, only the active members get included. Hmm...
>some creative number crunching at work.
no amway DOES NOT tell how many distributers they have
find out for yourself 
call distributer records
1-519-685-7550
ask them how many distributers there are.

no I said the number of inactive AND active ARE included in this
number.
It is IMPOSSIBLE to calculate the average income since some of my
colleagues make 6 figures and others simply get in to buy products at
wholesale and make no income.
What you put in you get out
one my associates is happy making 1000 dollars extra.
It brought his wife home so SHE could raise her kids and not daycare 

>[>>------- Uhm... well, not only did you not go out and check the facts 
>[>>for yourself, you also neglected to read the literature provided by 
>[>>amway when you join. It states very clearly that the more the people
>[>>under you sell (or buy or recruit), the more YOU make. I believe this
>[>>is called residual income. YOU can actually kick back and let the
>[>>people under you generate all the money. YOU just collect. There are
>[>>even nice charts and diagrams to get this point across.

 residual income is a royalty last time I checked.


who pays for this income....the distributer I sponser or amway?
who did the work me , my distributer or amway?

I CAN PROVE AT EVERY STAGE THE PERSON AT THE BOTTOM HAS THE
OPPERTUNITY TO MAKE MORE THAN THE PERSON AT THE TOP!!
you should have read that  sa4400 form
and please note we are the only ones with GOVERNMENT APPROVED
literature!
>[>DID HE SHOW YHE PLAN COMPLETLY?
>[>WHAT PARAGRAPH DOES IT SAY THIS EXACTLY

>------- Of course.... The specific 'paragraph' I am referring to was
>tucked in between all of the other booklets. It had the pyramids
>on it, with you (me) on the top circle, and the people below.
>Attached were some numbers (average sales, bv/pv points (or
>whatever thay are called) and the residual income figures). The
>top circle made the most money. When the circles below had
>bigger numbers attached to them, the top circle's figure was
>proportionally bigger. A very direct and positive relationship.
>I never did get a STRAIGHT answer as to why there were
>points in the first place. Can't I have honest money?
it is your inflation fighter$2 = 1 point you get paid on points 
if the cost of the item goes up so do the points.
inflation is beat
you keep your "honest money"  inflation wont STEAL from me!!
so >------- I understand that a good investement portfolio can perform

>[>>quite nicely. And it is probably less risky than someone's chances
>[>>of making it big in amway.
not according to stats can.
check it out and see
tell me where i can get a SAFE return at 15% ( at least to keep up
with inflation)?
>[>ARE YOU A FINANCIAL PLANNER???
>[>WHAT SHOULD I INVEST IN?
>[>i NEED 3-5 MILLION HOW DO i GET IT?

>------- You do your research and you invest in whatever you feel
>like. And, no, you do not need millions to invest. You can start
>investing (and should) with less money than it takes to get you
>into amway. If you are not very comfortable investing, see a broker
>or a financial planner. Sure, you'll be paying those people, but tell
>me dk, do you not STILL pay your sponsor for giving you the privilage
tell me do you bank 10 %>  the average canadian does not..
you  just dont get it.
I am not saying dont invest
I AM saying you do NOT have ENOUGH  income to invest.in a job
situation. sure save all you can  
what good is saving money when you owe?
your financial planner cannot help you make more money?
you have to diversify yourself. Remember the price of the caddy will
double in ten years can your financial planner help you get a RAISE?

 is your home paid for, what about your car, and visa?
 I hear you can have a perpetual car payment now(rental)
cash it in rite here rite nowask yourself what are you worth>
financial post says 80% of canadian income goes to pay tax and service
DEBT. Gee the banks made millions.... it wasent off service charges
 is debt is the real game?  
tell me how much do I need invested to make 100000 a year
EACH YEAR 
I could never hope of itsaving this amount
I did not have a million dollars to buy a mcdonalds
I did not have 250000 for an average canadian business with odds of
failure within the first 2 years.
I did have a hundred bucks fo an amway kit

Gee and now I compete againt WALMART

we got the rest beat
look at the malls ask yourself why is "for lease" the most popular
store name?
Wonder where the business went?
we grew by 25% last year!!
>------- Yeah, sometimes it scares me.

>BTW, there is a very subtle difference between typing in all
>uppercase letters and in proper mixed case. The former makes you
>look like a loser.
>--
> Mariusz Zydyk                           http://www.ucalgary.ca/~mszydyk/
> Prince of Darkness                                     pod@cadvision.com
sorry like i said I  have no status
and education is a joke
The real loosers ARE 95% of CANADIANS!!!!!
 got to ask yourself .............are you one?