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Ken Wagner <kenw@cdc.net> wrote:

>I love this.  Below is a message I recv'd this a.m. in regard to my post to 
>massullo@express.ca from bbs@csie.nctu.edu.tw (crosspost killer):

>Dear poster:
>    This article is crossposted to too many newsgroups. It will be
>canceled automatically by program. Please avoid this malicious practice.
>Related discussion is posted in tw.bbs.config newsgroups.
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>From: Ken Wagner <kenw@cdc.net>
>Newsgroups: 
>misc.consumer,misc.entrepreneurs,ab.general,alt.org.audubon,crs.buy_sell,mercury.general,cc.general,csstu.general,rich.buysell,sqnt-public.forsale,sqnt-public.forsale,uva.want-ads,yakima.general,monterey.general,monerey.forsale,misc.forsale.computer.other.software,biz.marketplace.computer.discussion,no.marked.jobb,misc.forsale.non-computer,misc.invest,misc.jobs.misc,misc.jobs.offered,za.ads.jobs,tw.bbs.forsale,uk.forsale,uk.jobs.d,uk.jobs.offered
>Subject: Re: Web advertising for cheap
>Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 16:03:39 -0700
>Organization: Chattanooga Data Connection Inc.
>Lines: 18
>Message-ID: <323DDCCB.3BBB@cdc.net>
>References: <323CE991.539D@express.ca>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: pm02-44.chattanooga.cdc.net
>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; U)
>Xref: netnews.csie.nctu.edu.tw misc.invest:107533 tw.bbs.forsale:153032

>>> massullo@express.ca wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm offering  advertising on over 4000 news group and web sites so you
>>> don't have to spend time doing it yourself. It saves time and money with
>>> my small fee. Its only $10 U.S. a month and if you want to buy more
>>> months it costs $20 U.S. for three months, $30 U.S. for six months, $40
>>> U.S. for nine months and $50 U.S. for a year of advertising. See what
>>> did I tell you the rates are cheep. You probably saying to yourself but
>>> what do I get, you get your web page or your classified ad or your
>>> business advertising on  NEWSGROUPS and WEB PAGES for the month or more
>>> that you paid for. This is no joke and we both know these are the
>>> cheapest rates around. For more info email me and ask for it. If you
>>> want to increase your web page hits or sell something or even increase
>>> business its the best thing you can do for so little money.
>>
>> Let me get this straight, you're announcing to the people who hate spam the
>> most, that you're a full-time spam artist?  What? Are you kidding?  Wonder
>> if that e mail address is ligit....

>Correct me if I'm wrong.  My response to his spam message gets killed, but his
>original spam message was ALLOWED to get posted into all those groups?!  Geez, now
>I'm sure I'm confused...


>==> On another note, will some one please let me know if this gets off my server?  
>Wonder if this post will get killed too?

Something I observed recently : one such message was sent to 
about 6 groups or so. I did not know why, you just gave the answer.
Well, if a program has been writen to eliminate useless messages, and
your message gets filtered by it, do not wait any answer from it.

Some groups are "moderated", that means "web advertisers" succeeded in
destroying freedom. Will it be long possible to resist ? Anyway it is
less a problem in some groups than in other ones to restrict writing
access -because of their topic.

Among a few characteristics of messages that are often repeated :
 - they are sent to as many groups as possible, preferably with
nothing to do with the topic (I suppose this is the criterium that
made your message being "moderated" -and the program has probably been
installed between time of the "Web advertising" and of your answer)
 - the sender's address is forged
 - the subject often contains "$" or "money" or "cash", but not 
always ; one of them even pushed to calling his message "new idea"
 - the text generally contains 5 addresses

It is probable most of them are sent by people with less than one week
of connection to groups, who had no time to evaluate the damage and
how ridiculous they will appear.

Of course one thing to do : never send money to somebody who menaces
freedom in groups to ask you to send him one dollar, and promises you
to receive several times the same, by begging further. Never accept to
get further information about a job if you do not see obviously before
first contact what the customer will get of it. Never accept a job if
you must pay for it, generally when you do a job you are payed for it.
I think because of spammers I already spent the equivalent of several
dollars that only profit to France Telecom. Well, in fact I imagine it
also profited to the one who wrote the program that filtered your
answer ... And that was needed, and we are not at the end of it.
Strange world ...

Well, this will probably have to be repeated, too.

              Good morning / good afternoon / good night to everybody.

While I am here : can anyone tell me what "alt" at the beginning of
the name of groups means ?