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Re: Water Efficient Toilets

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From: Alan Frisbie
Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1991 11:11
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I just installed three Ultra-Low Flush toilets and am *very* happy
with them.   They are the Kohler 3421-PB "Wellworth Lite" 
1.6 gallons/flush models.   The equivalent elongated bowl model
is the 3420-EB.

I selected them because Consumer Reports top-rated them in their
July 1990 issue.   There is one mistake in the article, however.
A picture is identified as being a Sears 5560.   Actually, it
is the Kohler 3421.   As you will see, it is about two inches taller
than my old American Standard toilets, with a different shape to
the tank.   It can best be described as "wide at the shoulders and
narrow at the hips".   The list price quoted in CR is $240, but
I got them at a local discount plumbing store for $108.88 each
(not including seat).

To address an earlier concern about water pressure, there is no
problem with this model.   It uses the conventional tank which
is refilled slowly after a flush.   The toilets which are pressure
sensitive are the tankless models, probably including most "low-boy"
models.

The Good:

  o  Saves 3.4 gallons per flush over the original equipment.
  o  Flushes quietly and for much less time than the old toilets.
  o  Cost only $8.88 (!) each after a $100.00 rebate from Los Angeles 
     Department of Water & Power.
  o  Installed easily.
  o  Got great satisfaction whacking the base of the old toilet
     with a large hammer when the bolts wouldn't loosen.   :-)

The Bad:

  o  Occasionally  requires two flushes to completely clear the bowl.
     This has happened twice in the last three weeks.
  o  The "water spot" in the bowl is smaller, so a fecal splatter
     is more likely to be above the water line, requiring more
     frequent cleaning.   I suspect this is true of all ULF toilets.

The Ugly:

  o  Sometimes a fecal smear is left on the bottom of the bowl
     which is then cleared with a later flush.

In summary, I have no complaints and consider them a good investment 
in both time and money, even without the rebate (which I didn't know 
about until after I purchased them).   It is a quick and painless
way to meet our water reduction goals.

I have written a complete description of my experiences in installing
these toilets myself.   If there is sufficient interest, I will post
it to the net.   The summary is that it is not difficult if you have
purchased all the correct parts and don't mind dirty work.

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From: frisbie@flying-disk.com (Alan Frisbie)
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Subject: Re: Water Efficient Toilets
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Date: 6 Mar 91 11:11:45 GMT
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