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Blow in cellulose insulation; it's fire retardant
and will effectively seal all those leaks to boot.
You can rent the blower for a DIY Job.
Jim

pat wrote:
> 
> I'm on a hunt to stop drafts in my house.
> 
> I live in a 1941 balloon frame, colonial in the DC Metro area. I rewired the
> whole house, and also installed a LAN, which
> has created some interesting air leaks inside the walls.
> 
> Now i can get some of that latex foam stuff, and seal up the leaks, but that
> isn't my real concern.  My concern is fire-resistance.
> I'm concerned about fire, following some of the wire and spreading through
> the house.  Should I use
> a fire-rated foam?  The only fire-rated stuff, i've seen is more like a
> putty, which won't stop my air leaks.
> 
> Am I worrying excessively about fire?  Should I use the latex, and then just
> smear fireputty on top of it?
> 
> Can anyone advise me?  I've had 2 neighbors lose their houses to fire,
> getting inside the balloon framing,
> so i'm not excessively paranoid.
> 
> Any advice is appreciated.
> 
> pat

On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 01:43:50 GMT, Speedy Jim <volks@nls.net> some
motley fool wrote:

>Blow in cellulose insulation; it's fire retardant

Anything on the market should indeed have been treated to be less
flamable.  The basic raw material is quite flamable; cellulose
compounds are used in explosives and gunpowder.  I'm not sure he would
get a good fill just pouring into 2-story balloon framed walls from
the top, and it could be an interesting dance to use a wand or hose
down into the wall from the top to get more direct filling.  May end
up better to cut in near the first floor ceiling.  I've blown the
stuff myself, but only for an attic 'floor' which is much more
straightforward.

But surely in an even mildly northern climate there is some insulation
in his walls already?  Maybe all he is worried about is draft at the
new outlets, which any old foam would do since he is just stopping
draft, not actually resisting flame.

Hope he finds peace of mind.

-v.

v. <velnon@KILLSPAMbanet.net> wrote in message
news:3aa84aac.2595813@news1.banet.net...
> On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 01:43:50 GMT, Speedy Jim <volks@nls.net> some
> motley fool wrote:
>
> >Blow in cellulose insulation; it's fire retardant
>
will this really stop drafts?

> Anything on the market should indeed have been treated to be less
> flamable.  The basic raw material is quite flamable; cellulose
> compounds are used in explosives and gunpowder.  I'm not sure he would
> get a good fill just pouring into 2-story balloon framed walls from
> the top, and it could be an interesting dance to use a wand or hose
> down into the wall from the top to get more direct filling.  May end
> up better to cut in near the first floor ceiling.  I've blown the
> stuff myself, but only for an attic 'floor' which is much more
> straightforward.
whatever, i'ts going to be a big PITA.

>
> But surely in an even mildly northern climate there is some insulation
> in his walls already?

nope just air gap.


>Maybe all he is worried about is draft at the
> new outlets, which any old foam would do since he is just stopping
> draft, not actually resisting flame.
>

my concern is helping to slow flame spread, while increasing energy
efficiency.

> Hope he finds peace of mind.
>
> -v.
>

Cellulose blown in insulation actually has better draft
resistance than fiberglass.  Some studies suggest it is
better at reducing fire spread than fiberglass.
For an admittedly one-sided view, go here to the mfr assoc:
http://www.cellulose.org/

Jim

pat wrote:
> 
> v. <velnon@KILLSPAMbanet.net> wrote in message
> news:3aa84aac.2595813@news1.banet.net...
> > On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 01:43:50 GMT, Speedy Jim <volks@nls.net> some
> > motley fool wrote:
> >
> > >Blow in cellulose insulation; it's fire retardant
> >
> will this really stop drafts?
> 
> > Anything on the market should indeed have been treated to be less
> > flamable.  The basic raw material is quite flamable; cellulose
> > compounds are used in explosives and gunpowder.  I'm not sure he would
> > get a good fill just pouring into 2-story balloon framed walls from
> > the top, and it could be an interesting dance to use a wand or hose
> > down into the wall from the top to get more direct filling.  May end
> > up better to cut in near the first floor ceiling.  I've blown the
> > stuff myself, but only for an attic 'floor' which is much more
> > straightforward.
> whatever, i'ts going to be a big PITA.
> 
> >
> > But surely in an even mildly northern climate there is some insulation
> > in his walls already?
> 
> nope just air gap.
> 
> >Maybe all he is worried about is draft at the
> > new outlets, which any old foam would do since he is just stopping
> > draft, not actually resisting flame.
> >
> 
> my concern is helping to slow flame spread, while increasing energy
> efficiency.
> 
> > Hope he finds peace of mind.
> >
> > -v.
> >

red devil sells a fire resistant, foam product, i will test it out and
report back.

pat


Speedy Jim <volks@nls.net> wrote in message news:3AAB807E.3917@nls.net...
> Cellulose blown in insulation actually has better draft
> resistance than fiberglass.  Some studies suggest it is
> better at reducing fire spread than fiberglass.
> For an admittedly one-sided view, go here to the mfr assoc:
> http://www.cellulose.org/
>
> Jim
>
> pat wrote:
> >
> > v. <velnon@KILLSPAMbanet.net> wrote in message
> > news:3aa84aac.2595813@news1.banet.net...
> > > On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 01:43:50 GMT, Speedy Jim <volks@nls.net> some
> > > motley fool wrote:
> > >
> > > >Blow in cellulose insulation; it's fire retardant
> > >
> > will this really stop drafts?
> >
> > > Anything on the market should indeed have been treated to be less
> > > flamable.  The basic raw material is quite flamable; cellulose
> > > compounds are used in explosives and gunpowder.  I'm not sure he would
> > > get a good fill just pouring into 2-story balloon framed walls from
> > > the top, and it could be an interesting dance to use a wand or hose
> > > down into the wall from the top to get more direct filling.  May end
> > > up better to cut in near the first floor ceiling.  I've blown the
> > > stuff myself, but only for an attic 'floor' which is much more
> > > straightforward.
> > whatever, i'ts going to be a big PITA.
> >
> > >
> > > But surely in an even mildly northern climate there is some insulation
> > > in his walls already?
> >
> > nope just air gap.
> >
> > >Maybe all he is worried about is draft at the
> > > new outlets, which any old foam would do since he is just stopping
> > > draft, not actually resisting flame.
> > >
> >
> > my concern is helping to slow flame spread, while increasing energy
> > efficiency.
> >
> > > Hope he finds peace of mind.
> > >
> > > -v.
> > >

I'ts okay,  it doesn't foam as much as the yellow goop, but it works.

The plus side, is it really has sealed the airleaks in the house, the place
was drafty, now it's tight.


pat <bahn@tgv-rockets.com> wrote in message
news:uFdr6.63$on6.65520@typhoon2.ba-dsg.net...
>
> red devil sells a fire resistant, foam product, i will test it out and
> report back.
>
> pat
>
>
> Speedy Jim <volks@nls.net> wrote in message news:3AAB807E.3917@nls.net...
> > Cellulose blown in insulation actually has better draft
> > resistance than fiberglass.  Some studies suggest it is
> > better at reducing fire spread than fiberglass.
> > For an admittedly one-sided view, go here to the mfr assoc:
> > http://www.cellulose.org/
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > pat wrote:
> > >
> > > v. <velnon@KILLSPAMbanet.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3aa84aac.2595813@news1.banet.net...
> > > > On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 01:43:50 GMT, Speedy Jim <volks@nls.net> some
> > > > motley fool wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Blow in cellulose insulation; it's fire retardant
> > > >
> > > will this really stop drafts?
> > >
> > > > Anything on the market should indeed have been treated to be less
> > > > flamable.  The basic raw material is quite flamable; cellulose
> > > > compounds are used in explosives and gunpowder.  I'm not sure he
would
> > > > get a good fill just pouring into 2-story balloon framed walls from
> > > > the top, and it could be an interesting dance to use a wand or hose
> > > > down into the wall from the top to get more direct filling.  May end
> > > > up better to cut in near the first floor ceiling.  I've blown the
> > > > stuff myself, but only for an attic 'floor' which is much more
> > > > straightforward.
> > > whatever, i'ts going to be a big PITA.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > But surely in an even mildly northern climate there is some
insulation
> > > > in his walls already?
> > >
> > > nope just air gap.
> > >
> > > >Maybe all he is worried about is draft at the
> > > > new outlets, which any old foam would do since he is just stopping
> > > > draft, not actually resisting flame.
> > > >
> > >
> > > my concern is helping to slow flame spread, while increasing energy
> > > efficiency.
> > >
> > > > Hope he finds peace of mind.
> > > >
> > > > -v.
> > > >
>
>