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Article #10950Re: Crestar Fingerprinting Assault
From: News-Net
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 00:00
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 00:00
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AMKipple wrote: > > I am an ISD contractor at a Tennessee bank, which just jumped on the > fingerprint bandwaggon. I have requested the facts internally, and believe > that what I have discovered may be of interest to those on the group. The > information provided is from the Tennessee Bankers Association and although > it is specific to the program as presented in Tennessee, it is probably > very similar to that in other states since there is currently only one > vendor involved. > > Fingerprints are not requested, only one single thumb print. A thumbprint > is not sufficient to identify any person in any fingerprint database > (Fart, Barf and Itch (FBI) is willing to ATTEMPT a match with three > prints).. Its only purpose is to overcome an objection at trial, " I am > not the one that passed the check". > > Primary value is the intimidation factor, and the reduction in the number > of attempts at passing fraudulent checks. This program is supported by the > Banking System, By the courts, and by law enforcement. This is a difficult > group to overcome. > > The thumbprint left can not be copied, will not appear on xerox copies of > the check, is not visible or recoverable by the person who issued the > check, and will not appear in microflinch. The only known and documented > recovery methoid is held by the vendor, and is applied when the check is > presented together with a court request. (And a $56.00 fee) > > In actual tests, the recovery rate is between 50 and 60 percent, with the > other fourty percent or more failing to recover. > > Less then 1/10 of one percent of all checks are actually presented in > person, or through any procedure beyond the normal banking system. These > 1/10 of 1 percent of check presented include almost 70 percent of all > forged or fradulant checks. With todays desk top publishing equipment, it > is almost impossible for a teller to discover a forgery today. It is also > just as easy to produce state type identification on desk top publishing > units. > > This procedure is supported by current laws in 40 states and prohibited in > 10 states. The fastest and most effective level for any objection is with > your state legislature, not federal. The FDIC not only supports this > program, but was in the fore front of its national introduction. The FDIC > is not looked apon with distrust in DC, and will testify in favor of the > printing process, at any hearing. > > Friends in the bank security section inform me that the entire process can > be nulified by an action as simple as painting your thumbs with glue before > entering the bank. The glue forms a crust that will mask your thumbprint. > > There has been a lot of opinions posted on this subject, I just though I > would offer a few facts without opinion. > > Al Kipple So you support the system -- then inform others how to "beat the system?" Wow! (News-Net)
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fb785,b22743a38967d79,start X-Google-Attributes: gidfb785,public X-Google-Thread: 1014c2,b22743a38967d79,start X-Google-Attributes: gid1014c2,public X-Google-Thread: 107518,6a2050cc875c3006 X-Google-Attributes: gid107518,public X-Google-Thread: 104271,bd68304469da4d0a X-Google-Attributes: gid104271,public X-Google-Thread: 101049,bd68304469da4d0a X-Google-Attributes: gid101049,public From: News-Net@ix.netcom.com Subject: Re: Crestar Fingerprinting Assault Date: 1997/09/08 Message-ID: <3414A505.1065@ix.netcom.com> X-Deja-AN: 270812591 References: <3413F3A5.1BFF@digex.net> <19970908165801.MAA11339@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: Netcom X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Sep 08 5:20:35 PM CDT 1997 Reply-To: News-Net@ix.netcom.com Newsgroups: misc.consumers,lat.law-enforcement,va.general,alt.privacy,dc.general