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Re: Crestar Fingerprinting Assault

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From: Maria Rost Rublee
Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 00:00
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Andy Quintana (cynical@clark.net) wrote:
: : Maria Rost Rublee wrote:

HEY!  I didn't write this!  I only did the crosspost.  I was wondering why
people were e-mailed me to tell me I was wrong!

maria

: : > I am hardly knowledgable about this kind of situation, and do not have the
: : > credentials to argue the constitution.  But, it seems to me that this
: : > would be unconstitutional.  Don't we have the right to be presumed
: : > innocent until proven guilty?  By only working with us if we provide a
: : > thumbprint, aren't they saying that they believe we are attempting fraud,
: : > and that they'll only work with us if we agree to being treated as if we
: : > were.  I would never commit fraud for any reason, but if I want to cash a
: : > check there, then aren't they basically saying that they think I would?
: : > And will only allow me to if I agree to be thumbprinted like any other
: : > convicted criminal.
: : > 
: : > I don't know if that's correct, but it seems to me to be.  Is it?  Is it
: : > unconstitutional?

: Sorry.  As sad as this practice is, the Constitution has nothing to do
: with it.  The Constitution applies to the government only, private
: entities are not affected.  Statutary law may apply here, or may be passed
: to cover this situation, but the Constitution won't help you.

: What they are doing is applying a condition to doing business with them,
: like asking for id.  You certainly don't have to provide the id or the
: print, all you have to do is walk away (and try to get your money some
: other way).  Unless enough people can pressure state or federal officials
: to pass new regulations or apply current ones, the best we can do is take
: our businesss elsewhere.  Judging from the reponses I've seen to people
: asking about good banks, people are running away from Crestar already.

: ==========================================================================
: Andy Quintana 			O-			cynical@clark.net
: 		[url removed until I dust off the cobwebs]
: --------------------------------------------------------------------------
: 		Ignorance is the root of all evil.
: ==========================================================================


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From: mrublee@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Maria Rost Rublee)
Subject: Re: Crestar Fingerprinting Assault
Date: 1997/09/09
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