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Article #11243Re: Total garage - non payment and taking thumbprints....??
From: bigbrian
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:35
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:35
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On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:22:17 -0000, "IGK" <topdog69@nospamntlworld.com> wrote: >> >> >If you think that's tough in a local (Kent) paper last week a lady with two >young kids filled up then noticed that she had no money so the petrol >station manager demanded that she *leave* one of her kids as security until >she went to get the �20 for petrol!!! I believe this was a total garage (in >Sittingbourne) luckily her partner turned up with money. igk. > Really? There's no way that they can get away with expecting to be able to do that. If you fill up with petrol and then realise you haven't got the means to pay, it has to be enough to just provide your name and address details and agree to return with payment within a reasonable time. And then just walk out. If they try and stop you it will be an unlawful arrest, and if they physically prevent you it's assault too. In order to be able to establish any attempt at dishonesty, there needs to be an intent to permanently deprive, without which, there's no arrestable offence. No arrestable offence means no powers of arrest (for anyone except a police officer). If the address details you provide are genuinely yours, I don't believe there's any way a case would be proven. Brian
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