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Re: ACLU and Unions protect illegal aliens rights over American Workers

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From: Rod Speed
Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 18:23
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Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
> greg3347 <theodoric3@lycos.com> wrote:
>
>>> Notice this telling statement about the case by John Sweeney,
>>> president of the AFL-CIO, who said, "This rule is a new tool to
>>> repress workers' rights in the name of phony immigration
>>> enforcement." Notice this statement assumes that illegal aliens
>>> using other people's Social Security numbers have a "right" to do
>>> exactly that, and that American labor unions are in the business of
>>> protecting those "rights."

> No.  Unions are protecting the rights of their membership to work.
> In a country of "innocent until proven guilty" it is the government's
> job to prove that they are guilty, not their job to prove that they
> are innocent.  This is done by due process in the courts, not by
> employers in a place of business.

Wrong with trivial stuff like proving you are who you claim
to be when using a credit card or using an aircraft as a
passenger etc.  The courts arent involved in that proof at all.

Same with proving you do have a drivers license when a cop
pulls you over for exceeding the speed limit etc etc etc. 
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From: "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,atl.general,misc.education,alt.politics.economics,alt.politics
Subject: Re: ACLU and Unions protect illegal aliens rights over American Workers
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 04:23:12 +1000
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