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Article #5747Re: Effect of multiple credit inquiries on FICO score
From: Stanley Cline
Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 16:13
Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 16:13
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On 02 May 2004 10:45:02 -0400, grabiner@alumni.princeton.edu (David J. Grabiner) wrote: >mortgage inquiries in a short time as just one inquiry. The logic is >that if you apply for six mortgages or six auto loans, you are not going >to buy any more houses or cars than if you applied only once. Beside the tendency of people to rate shop for car and home loans, buying a car or a home tends to result in multiple inquiries no matter what. For car loans, dealers often run credit reports while a potential buyer is out on a test drive, resulting in an inquiry even if the buyer walks away from a deal and doesn't actually apply for a loan or has pre-approval from a non-dealer lender, and for mortgages, lots of reports always get pulled (always at application time, often again during underwriting, and almost always again just before and/or just after closing.) Two personal examples of lots of reports getting pulled when shopping for/buying a car or home: - When I bought a new car four years ago, I had four inquiries by the time I had a new car, three from three different dealerships and one from the bank where I got the final loan. - I'm in the process of buying a house (with a "piggyback" arrangement to avoid PMI -- one first mortgage for 80% LTV and a HELOC for 15%, with 5% down) and got a FICO from Equifax last week for the heck of it; there have been four inquiries related to the mortgage: two related to the mortgage broker (one from the broker itself and an "ID verification" inquiry from the broker via Factual Data), one from the 80% lender, and one from the 15% lender (yes, the 80% lender and 15% lender are two different banks.) And I haven't closed yet (I close on the 13th), so I expect to see one from Fannie or Freddie and perhaps one each from the two lenders at closing time! There was one "unrelated" inquiry from a home security firm, and will probably be one or two more from utilities by the time I move. My score actually went *up* a bit since the last time I got a score *even despite the inquiries*, probably because I have lower balances on credit cards right now in light of getting the mortgage. -SC -- Stanley Cline -- sc1 at roamer1 dot org -- http://www.roamer1.org/ ... "Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today. There might be a law against it by that time." -/usr/games/fortune
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