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Skorpion <stingyou@albertsux.org> wrote in message news:<F2O0d.11583$ci3.111490@twister.southeast.rr.com>...
> ElaineJ wrote: 
> > Skorpion <stingyou@albertsux.org> wrote in message news:<d9s0d.2637$ci3.26831@twister.southeast.rr.com>...
> >>ElaineJ wrote:
 
> >>> Do you have any proof of the claim that 46,000 DID got *caught* double voting?

> >>http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/politics/2752160
> >>A newspaper investigation found 400-1000 double votings.

> >    Thanks for the url.  I read the article just now, and sure enough--
> > "The [New York] Daily News said it could not provide an exact count of
> > how many people vote in both places, because millions of names are
> > purged between elections. But the newspaper found that between 400 and
> > 1,000 registered voters voted twice in at least one election, a
> > federal offense punishable by up to five years in prison and a $10,000
> > fine."
> >    And what's up with a newspaper being the only entity that keeps
> > track of voters?  Makes you wonder what the full-time employees of all
> > the various election commissions do with their computers.  Of course,
> > it also makes me wonder who thought of this project and why - but
> > that's just normal election-year paranoia.
> >   (A word to folks who might want to get into a rant about them
> > cheatin' democrats - please reread the first sentence quoted above.
> > Thanks.)

> Double voting and such has to stop.  All the screaming and moaning about 
> being disenfranchised and crap falls on deaf ears when there's outright 

   Characterizing citizens who object to irregularities as hysterical
almost certainly doesn't move toward solving the problem.  It does
suggest that your news sources are far right of center.  IME, it's the
radright (and more rarely, some of the more moderate gop posters) who
routinely characterize their opponents as weak, overemotional, and
female - instead of addressing the question itself.

> fraud like double voting.  In reality, every time you try to make the 
> voting system honest, one side or the other, usually the democrats, 
> charge voter fraud, disenfranchisment, etc.   If you get rid of chads 
> and use electronic voting, then you hear whining about no paper trail.

   More emotional characterization of a strictly procedural problem. 
What possible objection could anyone have to have a separate
*provable* tally of votes?  Two axioms: 1) Computers can be subverted.
2)Adults know that elections can be stolen.  Adults make provisions
against being cheated out of an election, chiefly, a paper trail that
can be read by independent observers.

>    Take this double voting thing: both NY and FL should throw the voter 
> registrations out, since double registration is a felony and felons 
> supposedly can't vote, so be it.

   After every name of every double voter is demonstrated, and proven
and publicized in both states, that will be a fine idea.


>  But I'll guarantee you you'll have Al 
> Sharpton to Jesse Jackson on tv about this being a new form of 
> disenfranchisement.

   Possible, but not likely.  Provable numbers are needed.