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Article #8394Re: New High-Tech Traffic Lights
From: Edsel Chase
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 00:00
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 00:00
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Shiva Nataraja wrote: > > Can you elaborate on what you had in mind? In our neck of the woods, EVs frequently have accidents at intersections, especially within city propers -- so what i had in mind was giving the EV the ability to control the traffic flow while enroute to/from accident scenes -- the system would give opposing traffic plenty of time to slow and stop at yellow-to-red lights and give the greens to the EV -- so EVs would never have to slow down, and the EV-involved accidents would decrease in number -- > >-- and these may involve the "radar mile" principle -- > > What's the "radar mile" principle? As you may know, radio signals travel at a certain fixed velocity -- so it takes a certain amount of time for them to travel a given distance -- so when a vehicle is a predetermined distance away from a traffic light, the transponder (perhaps if i use the term transceiver? to note that it transmits *and* receives signals?) will sense the distance -- this is an electronic version of the mechanical equipment used at most traffic lights today -- > >Would you please explain why you seem to be turned off by > >the idea? -- > > To me, a "transponder" conjures up the small box you place on yourn > dashboard to enable you to use the special "fast track" lanes on the > tollway where you don't have to stop and pay the toll with pocket > change - as you drive at full freeway speed through the tollgate, the > transponder in your car responds to a brief radio message from the > toll gate with a response burst indicating its ID number. The ID > number is looked up in a database and the driver's account is debited > for the amount of the toll. Vehicles without these transponders are > unable to use the "fast track" lanes. All a transponder does is transmit *and* receive signals -- your AM/FM radio only receives signals, where a transponder or transceiver also sends signals -- the transceiver in a vehicle would send a signal to the traffic light, the light would receive the signal and sense the distance -- then the light might send useful info to the vehicle such as "light will turn green in two seconds" -- or "opposing traffic closer to intersection - prepare to stop" > This suggested to me that all vehicles would need to be equipped with > a transponder device in order for the intersection signals to detect > their presence; without a transponder, the intersection would not know > you were there and presumably might not turn green fot you. This is correct -- > This would > be a ridiculous system to say the least. > > Even if it were cost-effective and logistically feasible to equip > EVERY vehicle with a radio transponder, the Orewllian overtones would > still have many people, including myself, opposed to the idea. And if people were meant to drive, God would have given us wheels instead of legs? -- Drive carefully -- Indelibly yours, The motorious Edsel (you've *GOT* to be kidding) Chase
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107518,a40312b6223a4ae4 X-Google-Attributes: gid107518,public X-Google-Thread: 10001a,a40312b6223a4ae4 X-Google-Attributes: gid10001a,public X-Google-Thread: 10e16d,a40312b6223a4ae4 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e16d,public From: Edsel Chase <starswirler@geocities.com> Subject: Re: New High-Tech Traffic Lights Date: 1999/10/08 Message-ID: <37FE6AED.1F18@geocities.com> X-Deja-AN: 534487490 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <7sp72a$jgs$1@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net> <37F5AE1B.7DDC@geocities.com> <37f6420e.8788763@news.orng1.occa.home.com> <37F6FB14.5099@geocities.com> <37f7da9d.12464992@news.orng1.occa.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net 939420055 670 12.77.178.210 (8 Oct 1999 22:00:55 GMT) Organization: AT&T WorldNet Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: starswirler@geocities.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Oct 1999 22:00:55 GMT Newsgroups: misc.consumers,rec.autos.driving,ca.driving