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Re: Should this man have been convicted?

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From: Dave Lister
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 04:05
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briang@panix.com (Brian Gordon) wrote in
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> In article <5yY%9.5418$Xz4.339468@news2.west.cox.net>,
> Dave Lister  <retsildivad33@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>12 jurors, and not one with the common sense God gave an ant.
>>
> 
> They all did their duty -- decided the case on the facts in evidence,
> rather than some "outside the court" secret information.  That's how
> the jury system is supposed to work.

What "outside the court secret information"? Any idiot in California 
knows that the medical marijuana initiative passed. As a juror I would 
not convict unless I were shown that this is not why the marijuana was 
grown - and maybe not even then.
 
>>Can Grey Davis, who supported the medical marijuana law in CA pardon
>>him? 
> 
> What jurisdiction does a State Governor have in a conviction in a
> Federal Court for violation os a Federal Law?  As I have heard a US
> Attorney ask, even if CA passes a law saying bank robbery is not a
> crime, the Federal law still stands.

Federal law has no business telling the states how to conduct their 
affairs except in exactly those ways specified by the constitution. Most 
of these bullshit laws are a result of the stretching of the interstate 
commerce clause to mean whatever they want it to mean.
 
> We need to change Federal law, not harass Federal jurors who did their
> sworn duty.

What is their sworn duty? They have no duty to ignore their own 
perspectives, in spite of the collusion of the judiciary to lock out 
rights that all people have, such as jury nullification. 

-- 
Oh, to have a President with a 75+ IQ instead of GW Bush,
who says:

"I'm gonna talk about the ideal world, Chris. I've
read, I understand reality. If you're asking me
as the president, would I understand reality, I do."

"...when I put my hand on the Bible, I will
swear to not, to uphold the laws of the land"
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Subject: Re: Should this man have been convicted?
From: Dave Lister <retsildivad33@hotmail.com>
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