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Article #8595Re: Should this man have been convicted?
From: amp_spamfree
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 10:35
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 10:35
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justsayknow1@hotmail.com (Commonsense) wrote in message news:<b63b43e.0302062111.54aff87b@posting.google.com>... > amp_spamfree@yahoo.com (amp_spamfree) wrote in message news:<1192abe3.0302060506.17155754@posting.google.com>... > > "Joe Winett" <joe@vigoris.net> wrote in message news:<3e414659$1@news.vigoris.net>... > > > > >> 12 jurors, and not one with the common sense God gave an ant. > > > > > > > > > > No, they decided the case based on the evidence presented. The > > > > > jurors might feel bad now, but they shouldn't -- they did what they > > > > > had to do. > > > > > > > > No court can make someone convict somebody of a bad law. If I were on such > > > > a jury, I would nullify. > > > > > > Well, sure you would. That's why the judge didn't allow admission of the > > > fact that he was growing in compliance with California law. > > > > I'm not sure that what he was doing was in compliance with California > > law. The evidence the defense wanted to present was that what he was > > doing was concistent with the intent of the passed proposition. The > > same thing is happening in Nevada - there is no prohibition against > > cultivation and possession but there is a prohibition against > > distribution. The California case was not a possession case, it was > > the intent to distribute that was at issue. > > Of course what he was doing was in compliance with state law. He even > had the blessing of city officials who had deputized him and made him > an officer of the city for the purpose of growing marijuana. His > facilities had been inspected and were up to code and local law > enforcement was perfectly aware of what he was doing. Certainly it > was all at least under the color of law. I have yet to see any evidence of this other than some quotes from his supporters. I simply raised the question - was he in compliance with the legislation (not the proposition) in force in California at that time. > > As far as the federal law is concerned, its legality was upheld by the > > Supreme Court which is substantive evidence that it is a "good" law. > > The US SC is the final say so on those issues - that's their job and > > whether you agree or disagree with their rulings, only Congress can > > overturn by writing new legislation. > > I'm not sure exactly which law you are refering to The DEA scheduling of marijuana which classes it as not having medicinal value. > but I don't think > all of the issues in this case have been tested by the Supremes. The SC upheld the federal prohibition of marijuana use in medical treatments. > Alan > Dershowitz seems to think there is a good chance this decision could > be overturned in our highest Court on the issue of whether the > Commerce Clause provides authority for the federal government to > dictate whether a state can have a medical marijuana program. I'd like > to think he is right. I think the damned feds ought to stick to > "regulating interstate commerce" in a more literal sense as was > provided for in the Constitution rather than trying to dictate local > affairs. I never ventured an opinion regarding the medical status of marijuana. I actually did research with marijuana a long long time ago for its medicinal value, though what we were doing is describing a synthetic pathway. The feds used to grow it for us.
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