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Article #8613Re: Don't you just love America?
From: Tiny Human Ferret
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 03:10
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 03:10
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Strong Eagle wrote:
>
> Bob Ward wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 23:23:39 GMT, "Dave C."
> > <spammersdie@slowlyandpainfully.com> wrote:
> >
> > >-:
> > >-:> >
> > >-:> > Who is actually contributing to SS, Medicare, etc? It's not the illegal
> > >-:> > aliens. These monies are WITHHELD from their paychecks and sent to the
> > >-:> > government by the EMPLOYERS. So where do the employers get the money?
> > >-:> > Mostly from U.S. citizens. The illegal aliens aren't paying one red
> > >-:cent to
> > >-:> > Social Security. -Dave
> > >-:>
> > >-:> So, by your twisted (and incorrect) logic, you don't pay SS, either. And,
> > >-:you
> > >-:> don't pay with holding... your employer does. What a pile of horse
> > >-:hockey.
> > >-:>
> > >-:>
> > >-:
> > >-:OK, name one employer that illegally gives you the option of paying SS,
> > >-:Medicare, etc . . . yourself.
> > >-:
> > >-:You can claim exemption, but then the money NEVER goes to SS, Medicare. I
> > >-:mean, if you are an illegal alien and claim tax exemption (to stop your
> > >-:employer from withholding tax), are you going to file a tax return later?
> > >-:Not bloody likely.
> > >-:
> > >-:I stand by my earlier assertion. Illegal aliens don't pay one red cent to
> > >-:Social Security. They DO steal jobs. That's the only difference. Instead
> > >-:of paying SS tax (etc.) for legally employed workers, the employers pay the
> > >-:SS tax (etc.) for illegal aliens. Again, the money for this comes from the
> > >-:businesses' customers . . . most of which probably are not illegal
> > >-:ens. -Dave
> > >-:
> >
> > That's odd - in MY universe, the employee and employer BOTH contribute
> > on the FICA amount.
> >
> > --
> > This space left intentionally blank
>
> Yeh, well... your universe is rational. Dave's universe is... unique. One might
> also add that whether the employee is illegal or legal, he _earned_ his money, and
> he spends it back into the economy.
Actually, as a rule, they don't. They send it home to their beloved
homelands.
--
Be kind to your neighbors, even though they be transgenic chimerae.
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