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Article #8682Re: Consumers: This greed may spread across the USA
From: Don Klipstein
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 03:56
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 03:56
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unidextr@msn.com wrote: > >>I think it's pretty safe to say higher rates do promote more efficient >>use. Most people will reduce consumption by doing without (e.g., >>adjusting the thermostat or turning off unnecessary lights) or by >>installing more energy efficient appliances. If rates are low, >>there's little economic incentive to do either. > >And when use goes down they will demand higher rates to compensate for >the lost profits caused by the lower use! I seen it happen with >another public utility, where conservation was so good that the >utility demanded (and got) a significant rate increase to be able to >pay share holders dividends! (and management salaries and bonuses!). It is different when the local utilities are buying energy on the spot market due to inability to generate what they have to sell. The problem is that some utilities are exempt from deregulation on the retail level where the wholesale market is more deregulated. Look to Pennsylvania for results of retail rate regulation being better at being as deregulated as wholesale rate deregulation. There you have better price competition and nobody being forced to sell retail at prices below the wholesale market. Although Philadelphia still pays rates a bit more than what California was accustomed to a few years back, rates in Philadelphia and elsewhere in Pennsylvania have mostly dropped and definitely largely lagged inflation and hardly anyone expects a crisis anytime soon. - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
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