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Tim Patterson <tim@raptor.lpl.arizona.edu> wrote:
: Oh, c'mon Brian. Don't be so pedantic and nitpicky.
: Is therte anybody above the age of 10 who wouldn't
: be able to understand 

: 	"F--- off you a--hole"

: from the original, unaltered version? There has been absolutely
: no change to the meaning, and I see absolutely no reason
: why the vulgarity can't be censored if the meaning
: is kept. After all, not everybody thinks it's big and clever to 
: use rude words just because they cvan. Most mature people grew out
: of that habit about the same time they stopped farting in
: crowded elevators and giggling about it. This is a very different 
: matter from adding libellous text to the end of a quote. 
: The two cases aren't remotely comparable and to imply they are 
: is just making this whole discussion pointless...

Ah, but wait a minute. Let's look *again* at exactly what Vic wrote:
					     ^^^^^^^
: > Vic Moore <zkc16@ttacs.ttu.edu> wrote:
: > 
: > :: I have every right in the world. I am free to add words, subtract
: > :: words, or do anything I feel like doing to any post in any newsgroup
: > :: when I am replying to it. You may not like it, but the implications
: > :: that I am violating some sacred rule is ludicrous.

That pretty much says it all. He did NOT say, "I have every right to
censor or abbreviate cursewords if I feel like it, as long as it doesn't
change the essential meaning of the quote." No, even a child could
understand what Vic wrote. It's pretty darn clear that what the above
quote says is, he believes he has the blanket right to edit, rearrange,
quote out of context, even put words in other people's mouth, so to speak.
If anyone out there can prove that the above statement means otherwise,
PLEASE! do so.

Trosko's 'sheep' riposte was very much on the mark, and now Vic's unhappy
because Trosko made a fool of him.
 
Now, the above may not be what he MEANT to say. But if Vic is incapable of
writing what he means, if he expects us to read between the lines what he
really meant, forget it. In Usenet, as in real life, you are judged by
what you say, not by what you *meant* to say.

If you don't know how to say what you mean, Vic, if you're so
intellectually lazy or inadequate (or both) that you don't know how to
adequately express yourself in the English language, don't blame us and
don't get all huffy and try to defend your indefensible, misstated
opinions. Be a man. Admit you misspoke (misposted, whatever). Trust me,
folks will forget about it very quickly, as opposed to continually making
a fool of yourself like you are now because you don't have the balls to
admit you're wrong or that you didn't think hard enough about what you
wrote before posting it.

Vic does, quite by accident, have a point, though. Yes, Vic, you have the
right to cut and paste and rearrange and quote out of context and
fabricate quotes out of thin air. This is Usenet, after all, a wonderfully
anarchic place to be. And the rest of us have every right to consider your
posts to be meaningless and lacking all credibility whatsoever.

--
"Democracy is a great thing, except for that part about letting just any
yokel vote."

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