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Re: To Anyone Who Still Thinks HOAs Are a Bad Idea

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From: Brent P
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:36
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In article <3m4os35lsl92jm2gmjvo9jfrvm6t32lfki@4ax.com>, Scott in SoCal wrote:
> On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 22:53:38 -0600, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com
> (Brent P) wrote:
> 
>>> Go ahead, outline a plausible scenario where the HOA levies fines,
>>> forces the house into foreclosure, and yet the fugly exterior paint
>>> job does NOT get cleaned up.
>>> 
>>> Remember, I said PLAUSIBLE.
>>
>>I've had to deal with two foreclosures
> 
> [...]
> 
> In both cases, the former owners MOVED OUT, just as I said would
> happen to Graffito Green.

I stated the same. I told you they stiff the bank and move on. 

>>In the first case we levied fines and were going to go for a lien when 
>>the bank foreclosed. 
> 
>> Anything the association does is moot compared to the 
>>bank's interest. 

> Why do you keep arguing this point? NOBODY IS DISPUTING THIS.

You've been disputing it all along insisting that the board lien and 
following foreclosure action would get the property cleaned up. That's 
what I've been trying to get you to understandm, that board action is a 
moot point. 
 
>>Unless you think the gang bangers are paying their mortgage on time and 
>>just being assholes to the association, the association's action is moot. 

> It's not moot. In your scenario, the bank foreclosed first because the
> owners weren't making their mortgage payments. The other possibility
> is that the HOA applies the lien and forces the foreclosure.

I thought you understood. The board action is MOOT.  the board can move 
to foreclose first, but the bank still takes priority as the largest 
creditor. It doesn't matter what the board does. 
 
> EITHER WAY, THE GANG-BANGERS ARE FORCED OUT, AND THE HOUSE IS SOLD AND
> EVENTIALLY CLEANED UP. The details of how they got to the point of
> foreclosure and eviction are irrelevant. All that matters is that they
> WILL get there.

You want to be on the board that forecloses on the gang bangers? Did you 
read the blog about the drug-dealer house in the HOA? That's about how it 
would go down in reality. 
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