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Re: Whatever happened to property rights

#9139
From: 1100GS_rider
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 02:40
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John A. Weeks III <john@johnweeks.com> wrote:

> In article 
> <54ea1371-7477-4577-818d-520a1b93627b@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>  Pat <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote:
> 
> > On Feb 28, 6:07 am, "Sanity" <sanerthan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > "1100GS rider" <bmw110...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >
> > > news:1icztpj.19wmq39dm3xeN%bmw1100gs@hotmail.com...
> > >
> > > > Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >> there is a law
> > > >> (not a HOA rule, but an actual city ordinance) which prohibits leaving
> > > >> your garage door open longer than necessary. :)
> > >
> > > > That's appalling.
> > >
> > > Can someone enlighten me on something?  Unless you are working in your
> > > garage what is the purpose of leaving a garage door open.
> > 
> > The purpose of keeping your garage open is quite simple.  It's your
> > garage and you should be able to do as you want.  The purpose of
> > keeping your door open is that it is your right.
> 
> That may be true if you are in a detached single family home.
> But if you are part of a multi-housing unit, then keeping your
> garage door closed is both a matter of public health and common
> sense safety, it can cut down on the number of insurance
> claims that you have, and it helps property values.
> 
> The public health angle is keeping rodents out.  In our townhouse
> complex, we have one guy who insists on keeping is door open about
> a foot.  He says it keeps his house cool.  That is the only building
> in our development that has rodent problems.
> 
> The safety angle is that open garages gives bad people a place
> to hide as they stalk your neighborhood.  It also invites thieves
> into the are since they can steal without even having to break in
> if the door is open.
> 
> The insurance angle is frozen pipes.  Units with tuck-under 
> garages often have pipes in the garage ceiling for an upper
> level kitchen or bathrooms, and sometimes in the back walls
> for the unit's utilities.  It might be warm out when you open
> the garage door, but temperatures can drop well below freezing
> in a matter of hours here in Minnesota.
> 
> The property value angle is that potential buyers drive though
> and make decisions about a complex very quickly.  An open garage
> door looks sloppy, and people might simply keep driving if you
> have a neighbor who keeps their garage door open.
> 
> You keep your pants zipped up because it is sloppy to let it
> all hang out.  Do the same for your garage door.

These are all reasons why I will never live in housing where I share
walls or floors with other people.
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Subject: Re: Whatever happened to property rights
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