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Re: Whatever happened to property rights

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From: Sanity
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:59
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"Amy Blankenship" <Amy_nospam@magnoliamultimedia.com> wrote in message 
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> "Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message 
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> On Feb 28, 6:07 am, "Sanity" <sanerthan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "1100GS_rider" <bmw110...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> news:1icztpj.19wmq39dm3xeN%bmw1100gs@hotmail.com...
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>> > Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> >> there is a law
>> >> (not a HOA rule, but an actual city ordinance) which prohibits leaving
>> >> your garage door open longer than necessary. :)
>>
>> > That's appalling.
>>
>> Can someone enlighten me on something? Unless you are working in your
>> garage what is the purpose of leaving a garage door open.
>
> The purpose of keeping your garage open is quite simple.  It's your
> garage and you should be able to do as you want.  The purpose of
> keeping your door open is that it is your right.
>
> Amy started another post says "What ever happened to property
> rights".  Well, this is exactly what happened.  Somebody thought they
> knew what was better for you than you knew yourself, so they stopped
> you from doing it.
>
> It isn't appalling that someone leaves their garage open.  It's
> appalling that someone would think that they have the right to tell
> you to close it.
>
> As for "not longer than necessary"; I'd love to see the definition of
> "necessary".  I think I'd find a reason to keep it open for weeks at a
> time.
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>
> I've got to disagree with you.  The purpose of a HOA is so that people
> who like to be told what to do and tell others what to do can live with
> like-minded people.  They all agreed to it, so if that floats their 
> boat...
>

Don't get me wrong. There are a lot of things that are bad with HOA's. A 
Nazi on the board can make your life miserable. However saying that, there 
are quite a few things that are good. Everyone's lawn is kept mown. 
Driveways clean. Houses painted in acceptable colors. Now, if HOA's are so 
bad see how their value is kept better than a stand alone house in many 
cases.
I live in an HOA. This is my 3rd. I knew what I was getting into when I 
bought the house. I carefully read the covenants and nothing about them 
irritated me. The builder has some small sites right down the road where he 
could put one house on each.   The exact home in my development is worth 
30-40000 more than the stand alones. Why? Everything is perfectly maintained 
here, no pickups on the lawns, pleasant color scheme, etc.
I found in my 3 HOA experiences, the ones that bitched the most are the ones 
that didn't read the covenants before purchasing. Whose fault was that? 
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