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Re: Whatever happened to property rights

#9181
From: Brent P
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:19
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In article <3ZXxj.639$4m3.152@bignews7.bellsouth.net>, Sanity wrote:
> 
> "Brent P" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
> news:XLGdnYzxqPLZtVXanZ2dnUVZ_sytnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> In article <O4Vxj.562$4m3.208@bignews7.bellsouth.net>, Sanity wrote:
>>>
>>> "Amy Blankenship" <Amy_nospam@magnoliamultimedia.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OvUxj.866$Fs5.37@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
>>>> news:54ea1371-7477-4577-818d-520a1b93627b@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On Feb 28, 6:07 am, "Sanity" <sanerthan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> "1100GS_rider" <bmw110...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>> news:1icztpj.19wmq39dm3xeN%bmw1100gs@hotmail.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> > Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >> there is a law
>>>>> >> (not a HOA rule, but an actual city ordinance) which prohibits 
>>>>> >> leaving
>>>>> >> your garage door open longer than necessary. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> > That's appalling.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can someone enlighten me on something? Unless you are working in your
>>>>> garage what is the purpose of leaving a garage door open.
>>>>
>>>> The purpose of keeping your garage open is quite simple.  It's your
>>>> garage and you should be able to do as you want.  The purpose of
>>>> keeping your door open is that it is your right.
>>>>
>>>> Amy started another post says "What ever happened to property
>>>> rights".  Well, this is exactly what happened.  Somebody thought they
>>>> knew what was better for you than you knew yourself, so they stopped
>>>> you from doing it.
>>>>
>>>> It isn't appalling that someone leaves their garage open.  It's
>>>> appalling that someone would think that they have the right to tell
>>>> you to close it.
>>>>
>>>> As for "not longer than necessary"; I'd love to see the definition of
>>>> "necessary".  I think I'd find a reason to keep it open for weeks at a
>>>> time.
>>>> ------------------
>>>>
>>>> I've got to disagree with you.  The purpose of a HOA is so that people
>>>> who like to be told what to do and tell others what to do can live with
>>>> like-minded people.  They all agreed to it, so if that floats their
>>>> boat...
>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't get me wrong. There are a lot of things that are bad with HOA's. A
>>> Nazi on the board can make your life miserable. However saying that, 
>>> there
>>> are quite a few things that are good. Everyone's lawn is kept mown.
>>> Driveways clean. Houses painted in acceptable colors. Now, if HOA's are 
>>> so
>>> bad see how their value is kept better than a stand alone house in many
>>> cases.
>>> I live in an HOA. This is my 3rd. I knew what I was getting into when I
>>> bought the house. I carefully read the covenants and nothing about them
>>> irritated me. The builder has some small sites right down the road where 
>>> he
>>> could put one house on each.   The exact home in my development is worth
>>> 30-40000 more than the stand alones. Why? Everything is perfectly 
>>> maintained
>>> here, no pickups on the lawns, pleasant color scheme, etc.
>>> I found in my 3 HOA experiences, the ones that bitched the most are the 
>>> ones
>>> that didn't read the covenants before purchasing. Whose fault was that?
>>
>> No retired people with nothing better to do than complain about anything
>> and everything? The flowers aren't the right color, the such and such
>> work was done wrong, such and such has to be done, the board is full of
>> morons, so and so's grass is 3mm too long, so and so's car looks bad, so
>> and so's dog is 3lbs too heavy, etc etc endlessly on and on..... I find
>> that hard to believe.
>>
>>
>>
> That's bullsh-t.  It's not that bad. Have you ever lived in an HOA? 

My experiences are from being on a condo board. I cannot believe the sort 
of people I've dealt with are any better if they are living in house 
where there is an HOA.
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From: tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com (Brent P)
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to property rights
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