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"Brent P" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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> In article <akZxj.675$4m3.583@bignews7.bellsouth.net>, Sanity wrote:
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>> "Brent P" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>> In article <3ZXxj.639$4m3.152@bignews7.bellsouth.net>, Sanity wrote:
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>>>> "Brent P" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>>> In article <O4Vxj.562$4m3.208@bignews7.bellsouth.net>, Sanity wrote:
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>>>>>> "Amy Blankenship" <Amy_nospam@magnoliamultimedia.com> wrote in 
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>>>>>>> "Pat" <groups@artisticphotography.us> wrote in message
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>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 6:07 am, "Sanity" <sanerthan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "1100GS_rider" <bmw110...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>> > Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >> there is a law
>>>>>>>> >> (not a HOA rule, but an actual city ordinance) which prohibits
>>>>>>>> >> leaving
>>>>>>>> >> your garage door open longer than necessary. :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > That's appalling.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can someone enlighten me on something? Unless you are working in 
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> garage what is the purpose of leaving a garage door open.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The purpose of keeping your garage open is quite simple.  It's your
>>>>>>> garage and you should be able to do as you want.  The purpose of
>>>>>>> keeping your door open is that it is your right.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Amy started another post says "What ever happened to property
>>>>>>> rights".  Well, this is exactly what happened.  Somebody thought 
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> knew what was better for you than you knew yourself, so they stopped
>>>>>>> you from doing it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It isn't appalling that someone leaves their garage open.  It's
>>>>>>> appalling that someone would think that they have the right to tell
>>>>>>> you to close it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for "not longer than necessary"; I'd love to see the definition 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> "necessary".  I think I'd find a reason to keep it open for weeks at 
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> time.
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've got to disagree with you.  The purpose of a HOA is so that 
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> who like to be told what to do and tell others what to do can live
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> like-minded people.  They all agreed to it, so if that floats their
>>>>>>> boat...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't get me wrong. There are a lot of things that are bad with 
>>>>>> HOA's.
>>>>>> A
>>>>>> Nazi on the board can make your life miserable. However saying that,
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> are quite a few things that are good. Everyone's lawn is kept mown.
>>>>>> Driveways clean. Houses painted in acceptable colors. Now, if HOA's 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> bad see how their value is kept better than a stand alone house in 
>>>>>> many
>>>>>> cases.
>>>>>> I live in an HOA. This is my 3rd. I knew what I was getting into when 
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> bought the house. I carefully read the covenants and nothing about 
>>>>>> them
>>>>>> irritated me. The builder has some small sites right down the road
>>>>>> where
>>>>>> he
>>>>>> could put one house on each.   The exact home in my development is
>>>>>> worth
>>>>>> 30-40000 more than the stand alones. Why? Everything is perfectly
>>>>>> maintained
>>>>>> here, no pickups on the lawns, pleasant color scheme, etc.
>>>>>> I found in my 3 HOA experiences, the ones that bitched the most are 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> ones
>>>>>> that didn't read the covenants before purchasing. Whose fault was 
>>>>>> that?
>>>>>
>>>>> No retired people with nothing better to do than complain about 
>>>>> anything
>>>>> and everything? The flowers aren't the right color, the such and such
>>>>> work was done wrong, such and such has to be done, the board is full 
>>>>> of
>>>>> morons, so and so's grass is 3mm too long, so and so's car looks bad, 
>>>>> so
>>>>> and so's dog is 3lbs too heavy, etc etc endlessly on and on..... I 
>>>>> find
>>>>> that hard to believe.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> That's bullsh-t.  It's not that bad. Have you ever lived in an HOA?
>>>
>>> My experiences are from being on a condo board. I cannot believe the 
>>> sort
>>> of people I've dealt with are any better if they are living in house
>>> where there is an HOA.
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>> Condos are 1000 times worse than HOA's. Yes, you have your bitchers and
>> moaners but in the main most people were ok. I was president of the board
>> for one year. We had one board member that thought he was Saddam Hussein. 
>> He
>> tried to make everyone miserable within the first few weeks he was on the
>> board. I called an emergency meeting and we fired him from the board.
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> IME the worst people wouldn't bother with being on the board. They enjoy
> complaining. Never really had much of a problem with other board members.
> Although it was fun pointing the complainers to the empty board seats and
> then having them shut up :)  It would spoil their favorite sport to be on
> the board....
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You're 100 percent right.
I used to start the meetings off with  "Those who complain, refuse to 
serve".