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Re: Sitting up Higher ( was Re: SUVs are rollover risks and prone fatal accidents! (NOT) )

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From: Mike Locke
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 07:35
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Kiki,

Your basic problem is that you are trying to look out the back windows of
your Pathfinder.  Use those big mirrors and abandon the rear windows
entirely.  That's what I do with my truck and what I did in the Toyota
4-runner I had before that.  If I look out the window a) I get a miniscule
view due to the small size of the rear quad cab door window (that's on the
right side, on the left I see nothing at all) and b) I am looking over the
top of 70% of the vehicles on the road.  However, if I look in my huge side
mirrors I have a really excellent view of everything.

Despite what others posted here, I do believe that side view mirrors need to
include a rear fender in the view.  This is needed to have some perspective
so that you can determine how far a car is away.  I'm sure you've read the
warnings on convex mirrors.

Regarding rolling over things rather than swerving around: of course it is
unpleasant to roll over an obstacle and "hope".  You don't do it
intentionally.  However, it is just one more point contributing to the issue
that roll-over stability is not as simple as the ratio of wheel separation
to center of gravity height.

--
S'later, Mike Locke     lockem@scrserv.com

Kiki <tigress@havoc.gtf.org> wrote in message
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> In rec.autos.driving Mike Locke <lockem@scrserv.com> wrote:
>
> : I have to disagree here.
> : I've got two extremely different vehicles: 2000 Dodge RAM 2500 4x4 and
1999
> : Mazda Protege'.  The roof of the Protege' does not come up to the bottom
of
>
> Hey, I put my requisate disclaimer that it could just be due to my
> Pathfinder's design :). But in my Pathfinder, the last two windows are
> practically useless cause I really can't tell if there is a car there or
> not.
>
> This also has a lot to do with cars. There are cars with blind spots too..
> blind spots do have a lot to do with the design of the vehicle itself.
>
> : In the last couple of years auto makers have all decided to go with
"swoopy"
> : designs with the rear of the car much higher than the front.  Net
result:
> : turn your head to look to the side in one of these cars and all you see
is
> : the rear passenger's seat.  The view out the rear view mirror is not
much
> : better.
>
> Ah, never had to deal with this. My first car was an old 82 Saab that had
> excellent visibility around the car, and the last was a Porsche where it
> was pretty easy alos to see if there was a car next to me.
>
> : The truck's mirrors are several times larger than the car's mirrors.  A
can
> : also confirm that most of the time I can spot obstacles much sooner in
the
>
> Agreed here. It's easier to back my Pathfinder up because of the large
> side mirrors (the Saab was easy to back up because of power mirrors, easy
> to adjuts them at a whim).
>
> : truck than in the car.  The truck has big wheels and loads of ground
> : clearance and can simply roll over things that would damage or
compromise
> : control of the car.  Of course, the truck can probably be rolled and the
car
>
> I still wouldn't want to roll over those things that would damage other
> cars at high speeds.
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From: "Mike Locke" <lockem@scrserv.com>
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Subject: Re: Sitting up Higher ( was Re: SUVs are rollover risks and prone fatal accidents! (NOT) )
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