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Re: Sitting up Higher ( was Re: SUVs are rollover risks and prone fatal accidents! (NOT) )

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From: David Hillman
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 19:22
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In article <93nk68$rvs$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,  <dmcdd@my-deja.com> wrote:
>A higher seating position puts my eyeline above the roof of most small
>cars. Your low car eyeline puts you even with most small cars. Since the
>majority of city traffic is still cars, that puts those in a higher
>seating position in the advantageous position of being able to see
>farther ahead in traffic an anticipate situations before the car
>immediatly ahead of them has to hit the brakes. That is a very large
>advantage.

   And if I drive slightly to the left of the preceding car, your 
   advantage is virtually nil.

   Also, if you are close enough to make a 'very large' difference in
   perspective, you are following too close.  Especially considering that
   most 'small cars' can significantly out-brake your tall station wagon.

>Being able to see the  reflected brake lights on wet pavment of the
>second car up balances out being able to see many cars ahead in traffic?
>I guess everyone's entitled to their opinion...

   Read carefully.  The only vehicles which cause a major difference in
   visibility are very wide, yet low ones.  These are very rare.  As such,
   very little advantage is conveyed by sitting higher.  Very little
   advantage is also conveyed by being able to see under preceding
   traffic.

   They cancel out, in the rough terms we have available.

>That's just not true. In my grand cherokee I have the mirrors adjusted
>to see any traffic to the side of me. 

   I didn't say /every/ tall station wagon has this problem, but a
   significant number do.

>We're talking about a total difference in vehicle height of maybe two 
>feet at the most between stock vehicles. If the large vehicles driver's 
>mirrors are only showing the top two feet of other tall vehicles they 
>need to get their mirrors fixed - or learn how to adjust them. This part 
>of your argument is just plain wrong.

   So two feet is insignificant when vehicles are close, but becomes 
   more so as the distances increase?  Hmmm.

   Virtually no one knows how to correctly adjust their mirrors, so I'll
   stand by my statement.

   You've probably never been in a small car next to a tall station wagon,
   and had them not be able to see you.  Happens to me frequently.  And
   I'm trying to stay away from them, so I imagine it happens more frequently
   to other small car drivers.

>To sum up, You're mistaken - there is a great advantage to foresight.

   Yes, there is; but the point is that tall passenger vehicles offer
   very little foresight advantage, compared to regular passenger vehicles.

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From: hillman@enteract.com (David Hillman)
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Subject: Re: Sitting up Higher ( was Re: SUVs are rollover risks and prone fatal accidents! (NOT) )
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