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Joe <cyan999@post.com> wrote:

> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours
> or someone elses), what so far is the best purchase you've
> ever made and please elaborate on why you think so.

The materials for the house I built myself, physically.

Because our tax system doesnt tax the principle residence on
capital gain and that produced one hell of an income tax free
at the time that I was building it, much more than the boss
of the operation I was working for was getting at the time.

Arguably the stocks I bought well before that was a better purchase,
but that wasnt a single purchase or even a single group of purchases
at roughly the same time, essentially because I was trading in those
stocks over decades, I started doing it when still in school, quite
literally, so that doesnt really qualify for your question.

On Fri, 16 May 2008 20:58:05 -0700 (PDT), Joe <cyan999@post.com>
wrote:

>Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
>charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
>someone elses), what so far is
>the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you
>think so.

A 1957 Ford for $200.    Elaborations cost extra.  

My best purchase was a recent purchase of a TV.  It is a $300 Emerson
which I ordered from Walmart.  It provides me with hours of
entertainment every evening.  It has a built in DVD player although I
haven't used it yet (except to test that it works) so I can rent
movies from Netflix if I choose.  So far, my favorite programs are on
PBS..."Nightly business Report", "California Gold", British mysteries,
etc.

Joe wrote:
> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
> someone elses), what so far is
> the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you
> think so.
> 
> 
> 


Buying 2450 acres of property in a prime rural location for next to 
nothing in 1986 and using a little known process of re-establishing and 
reclaiming correct title via historical patents and certificates of 
compliance in essence circumvented The Calif Map Act.  Have been selling 
off parcels for 20-years now.  That single deal and the profits it 
generated generated have paved the way for many profitable developments 
which would never have been possible without this cash cow.. Original 
Cost $225-ac. Averaged Sale $4200-AC   Real Estate 'Dirt' is where is 
the money is. Unless your really lucky in the stock market.

The house we are presently living in now.  We got it at a great price, and 
it has since appreciated in value considerably from our purchase price, in 
about eight years.

"Joe" <cyan999@post.com> wrote in message 
news:8f2702cc-afb9-4964-bf0d-8425adb35b82@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
> someone elses), what so far is
> the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you
> think so.
>
>
> 

Dirt, what is the "Calif. Map Act"?

Fred

"-DirtBag�" <"-Dirt\"@sonic.net"> wrote in message 
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> Joe wrote:
>> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
>> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
>> someone elses), what so far is
>> the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you
>> think so.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Buying 2450 acres of property in a prime rural location for next to 
> nothing in 1986 and using a little known process of re-establishing 
> and reclaiming correct title via historical patents and certificates 
> of compliance in essence circumvented The Calif Map Act.  Have been 
> selling off parcels for 20-years now.  That single deal and the 
> profits it generated generated have paved the way for many profitable 
> developments which would never have been possible without this cash 
> cow.. Original Cost $225-ac. Averaged Sale $4200-AC   Real Estate 
> 'Dirt' is where is the money is. Unless your really lucky in the stock 
> market. 

Yep, ditto on our house also.  Bought for $23K back in the early 70's. 
Very good for keepin' the rain off your head. ;-)

Fred

"Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message 
news:482f72c3$0$5707$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> The house we are presently living in now.  We got it at a great price, 
> and it has since appreciated in value considerably from our purchase 
> price, in about eight years.
>
> "Joe" <cyan999@post.com> wrote in message 
> news:8f2702cc-afb9-4964-bf0d-8425adb35b82@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
>> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
>> someone elses), what so far is
>> the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you
>> think so.
>>
>>
>>
> 

"FrediFizzx" <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:699ej7F3219vmU1@mid.individual.net...
> Yep, ditto on our house also.  Bought for $23K back in the early 70's. 
> Very good for keepin' the rain off your head. ;-)
>
> Fred
>
> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message 
> news:482f72c3$0$5707$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> The house we are presently living in now.  We got it at a great price, 
>> and it has since appreciated in value considerably from our purchase 
>> price, in about eight years.
>>
>> "Joe" <cyan999@post.com> wrote in message 
>> news:8f2702cc-afb9-4964-bf0d-8425adb35b82@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
>>> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
>>> someone elses), what so far is
>>> the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you
>>> think so.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

You guys are so materialistic.  The best purchase I ever made was a marriage 
license for 3 bucks 48 years ago. 

beadsbyirene <sanerthanyou@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:483062a6$0$30481$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> "beadsbyirene" <sanerthanyou@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:pWLXj.143981$Er2.26457@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>>>
>>> "FrediFizzx" <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:699ej7F3219vmU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> Yep, ditto on our house also.  Bought for $23K back in the early
>>>> 70's. Very good for keepin' the rain off your head. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Fred
>>>>
>>>> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:482f72c3$0$5707$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>>> The house we are presently living in now.  We got it at a great
>>>>> price, and it has since appreciated in value considerably from
>>>>> our purchase price, in about eight years.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Joe" <cyan999@post.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:8f2702cc-afb9-4964-bf0d-8425adb35b82@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
>>>>>> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
>>>>>> someone elses), what so far is
>>>>>> the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why
>>>>>> you think so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> You guys are so materialistic.  The best purchase I ever made was a
>>> marriage license for 3 bucks 48 years ago.
>>>
>>
>> Good point.  But I do not consider the cost of a marriage license as
>> a purchase, because you did not have to "purchase" a licnese to live
>> with someone for the rest of your life.  We do that because it is
>> one of those things we are expected to do, when we marry someone.

> 48 years ago, you had to purchase a license to live with someone for the rest of your life. Living together without 
> that license was considered 'sin' in those days.

No it wasnt, plenty did it even then. That was the 60s when doing that was rife. 

On May 18, 3:40�pm, "beadsbyirene" <sanerthan...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> 48 years ago, you had to purchase a license to live with someone for the
> rest of your life. Living together without that license was considered 'sin'
> in those days.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

They should have a learners permit

"Bert Hyman" <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in message 
news:Xns9AA2961EA386CVeebleFetzer@216.250.184.7...
> In news:lC%Xj.48458$3v1.17850@bignews3.bellsouth.net "beadsbyirene"
> <sanerthanyou@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 48 years ago, you had to purchase a license to live with someone for
>> the rest of your life. Living together without that license was
>> considered 'sin' in those days.
>
> Not quite.
>
> The churches required the ceremony, while the state required the
> license.
>
> -- 
> Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

OK smartie. So the best thing I purchased was a ministers ceremony.  Feel 
better? 

"Lawyerkill" <Lawyerkill@aol.com> wrote in message 
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On May 18, 3:40?pm, "beadsbyirene" <sanerthan...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> 48 years ago, you had to purchase a license to live with someone for the
> rest of your life. Living together without that license was considered 
> 'sin'
> in those days.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

They should have a learners permit



Today they do. It's called "living together".   What the should have is a 
renewable marriage contract  that has to be renewed every five years.  I'd 
still be married 48 years. 

beadsbyirene wrote:
...
> 48 years ago, you had to purchase a license to live with someone for the 
> rest of your life. Living together without that license was considered 'sin' 
> in those days. 

It's still considered a sin. It's just that fewer people seem to care.

Anthony

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:69bha4F32f79hU1@mid.individual.net...
> beadsbyirene <sanerthanyou@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:483062a6$0$30481$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>
>>> "beadsbyirene" <sanerthanyou@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:pWLXj.143981$Er2.26457@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>>>>
>>>> "FrediFizzx" <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:699ej7F3219vmU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> Yep, ditto on our house also.  Bought for $23K back in the early
>>>>> 70's. Very good for keepin' the rain off your head. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:482f72c3$0$5707$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>>>> The house we are presently living in now.  We got it at a great
>>>>>> price, and it has since appreciated in value considerably from
>>>>>> our purchase price, in about eight years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Joe" <cyan999@post.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:8f2702cc-afb9-4964-bf0d-8425adb35b82@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
>>>>>>> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
>>>>>>> someone elses), what so far is
>>>>>>> the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why
>>>>>>> you think so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You guys are so materialistic.  The best purchase I ever made was a
>>>> marriage license for 3 bucks 48 years ago.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Good point.  But I do not consider the cost of a marriage license as
>>> a purchase, because you did not have to "purchase" a licnese to live
>>> with someone for the rest of your life.  We do that because it is
>>> one of those things we are expected to do, when we marry someone.
>
>> 48 years ago, you had to purchase a license to live with someone for the 
>> rest of your life. Living together without that license was considered 
>> 'sin' in those days.
>
> No it wasnt, plenty did it even then. That was the 60s when doing that was 
> rife.
>

This year is 2008.  48 years ago, would make it 1960. 

Jerry Okamura <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:69bha4F32f79hU1@mid.individual.net...
>> beadsbyirene <sanerthanyou@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:483062a6$0$30481$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>>
>>>> "beadsbyirene" <sanerthanyou@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:pWLXj.143981$Er2.26457@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "FrediFizzx" <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:699ej7F3219vmU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> Yep, ditto on our house also.  Bought for $23K back in the early
>>>>>> 70's. Very good for keepin' the rain off your head. ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fred
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:482f72c3$0$5707$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>>>>> The house we are presently living in now.  We got it at a great
>>>>>>> price, and it has since appreciated in value considerably from
>>>>>>> our purchase price, in about eight years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Joe" <cyan999@post.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:8f2702cc-afb9-4964-bf0d-8425adb35b82@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
>>>>>>>> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours
>>>>>>>> or someone elses), what so far is
>>>>>>>> the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why
>>>>>>>> you think so.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You guys are so materialistic.  The best purchase I ever made was
>>>>> a marriage license for 3 bucks 48 years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good point.  But I do not consider the cost of a marriage license
>>>> as a purchase, because you did not have to "purchase" a licnese to
>>>> live with someone for the rest of your life.  We do that because
>>>> it is one of those things we are expected to do, when we marry
>>>> someone.
>>
>>> 48 years ago, you had to purchase a license to live with someone
>>> for the rest of your life. Living together without that license was
>>> considered 'sin' in those days.
>>
>> No it wasnt, plenty did it even then. That was the 60s when doing
>> that was rife.
>>
>
> This year is 2008.  48 years ago, would make it 1960.

Duh. Plenty of people were doing that in 1960. 

Anthony Matonak <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote:
> beadsbyirene wrote:
> ...
>> 48 years ago, you had to purchase a license to live with someone for
>> the rest of your life. Living together without that license was
>> considered 'sin' in those days.
>
> It's still considered a sin.

Only by fools.

> It's just that fewer people seem to care.

Or those doing that dont consider that its a sin.

In article <n61Yj.144426$Er2.140126@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, 
sanerthanyou@gmail.com says...
> 
> "Lawyerkill" <Lawyerkill@aol.com> wrote in message 
> news:de5c74b4-b45c-4ec4-bfb2-946af50f277a@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
> On May 18, 3:40?pm, "beadsbyirene" <sanerthan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > 48 years ago, you had to purchase a license to live with someone for the
> > rest of your life. Living together without that license was considered 
> > 'sin'
> > in those days.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
> 
> They should have a learners permit
> 
> 
> 
> Today they do. It's called "living together".   

Always have.  It was called "living in sin", then "shacking up".

> What the should have is a 
> renewable marriage contract  that has to be renewed every five years.  I'd 
> still be married 48 years. 

Kinda defeats the whole purpose ("for the children").

-- 
Keith

In article <b41Yj.144424$Er2.48534@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, 
sanerthanyou@gmail.com says...
> 
> "Bert Hyman" <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in message 
> news:Xns9AA2961EA386CVeebleFetzer@216.250.184.7...
> > In news:lC%Xj.48458$3v1.17850@bignews3.bellsouth.net "beadsbyirene"
> > <sanerthanyou@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> 48 years ago, you had to purchase a license to live with someone for
> >> the rest of your life. Living together without that license was
> >> considered 'sin' in those days.
> >
> > Not quite.
> >
> > The churches required the ceremony, while the state required the
> > license.

Isn't at least a civil "ceremony" required?

 
> OK smartie. So the best thing I purchased was a ministers ceremony.  Feel 
> better? 

Cost more than three bucks, didn't it? It certainly has since! ;-)) 

-- 
Keith

In article <8f2702cc-afb9-4964-bf0d-8425adb35b82@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, Joe <cyan999@post.com> wrote:
>Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
>charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
>someone elses), what so far is the best purchase you've ever made
>and please elaborate on why you think so.

My 30-year-old car which is still running reasonably well.

I hesitate to "upgrade" because there's so much friggin' electronics 
in modern vehicles you can't get them fixed out in the sticks -- and 
everyone knows computer stuff tends to die in about three years.

Cheers, Phred.

-- 
ppnerkDELETE@THISyahoo.com.INVALID

Phred wrote:

>My 30-year-old car which is still running reasonably well.
>
>I hesitate to "upgrade" because there's so much friggin' electronics 
>in modern vehicles you can't get them fixed out in the sticks -- and 
>everyone knows computer stuff tends to die in about three years.
>
>Cheers, Phred.
>
>  
>
Can't give up that 8-track, eh?

krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzz (krw) wrote in
news:MPG.229aa8816290b2a0989c28@news.individual.net: 

> In article <b41Yj.144424$Er2.48534@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, 
> sanerthanyou@gmail.com says...
>> 
>> "Bert Hyman" <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in message 
>> news:Xns9AA2961EA386CVeebleFetzer@216.250.184.7...
>> > In news:lC%Xj.48458$3v1.17850@bignews3.bellsouth.net
>> > "beadsbyirene" <sanerthanyou@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> 48 years ago, you had to purchase a license to live with someone
>> >> for the rest of your life. Living together without that license
>> >> was considered 'sin' in those days.
>> >
>> > Not quite.
>> >
>> > The churches required the ceremony, while the state required the
>> > license.
> 
> Isn't at least a civil "ceremony" required?

I just meant that the curches were the ones who invented the concept
of "living in sin", requiring their marriage ceremony to make the
marriage legit. The idea of a civil ceremony is a relatively recent
invention. 

-- 
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com

In article <3AcYj.226$UE2.196@newsfe24.lga>, clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>Phred wrote:
>
>>My 30-year-old car which is still running reasonably well.
>>
>>I hesitate to "upgrade" because there's so much friggin' electronics 
>>in modern vehicles you can't get them fixed out in the sticks -- and 
>>everyone knows computer stuff tends to die in about three years.
>>
>Can't give up that 8-track, eh?

If you're talking those old mainframe tapes, yeah, they were pretty 
reliable.  (About 20 years ago I got data transferred from a couple of 
15-year-old tapes to DSHD floppies -- remember those? -- without any 
problems.  I'll post again if I can still read the floppies... If I 
can find them! :-)

Cheers, Phred.

-- 
ppnerkDELETE@THISyahoo.com.INVALID

FrediFizzx wrote:
> Dirt, what is the "Calif. Map Act"?
> 
> Fred
> 
> "-DirtBag�" <"-Dirt\"@sonic.net"> wrote in message 
> news:482F71C2.8000104@sonic.net...
>> Joe wrote:
>>> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
>>> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
>>> someone elses), what so far is
>>> the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you
>>> think so.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Buying 2450 acres of property in a prime rural location for next to 
>> nothing in 1986 and using a little known process of re-establishing 
>> and reclaiming correct title via historical patents and certificates 
>> of compliance in essence circumvented The Calif Map Act.  Have been 
>> selling off parcels for 20-years now.  That single deal and the 
>> profits it generated generated have paved the way for many profitable 
>> developments which would never have been possible without this cash 
>> cow.. Original Cost $225-ac. Averaged Sale $4200-AC   Real Estate 
>> 'Dirt' is where is the money is. Unless your really lucky in the stock 
>> market. 
> 


The Map Act. attempted to standardize develop and set criteria for 
subdividing California.  Basically it was intended to supersede the 
small counties in California rules for development and set state-wide 
standards.  It covered areas like road gradients, water requirements, 
access to power, etc. It was intended to basically keep the shoddy 
developers from carving up California like they did Florida with 
haphazard and poorly designed subdivisions.

See:
CALIFORNIA SUBDIVISION MAP ACT
GOVERNMENT CODE
SECTION 66410-66499

  In counties like Mendocino, Lake, Napa, Santa Cruz, where you can find 
all kinds of shoddy historical parcels going back to patents given to 
soldiers and others in order to populate California in the 1800-1900's.

Note:( parcels used to be called Patents and if you understand how to 
find these patents and use the process for re-establishing the parcel 
using a certificate of compliance method, you can place yourself into a 
favorable position to negotiate with the State for exemptions and 
effectively reestablish the historical maps and using other little 
tricks which I will not broadcast here though if your interested in 
learning more Fred you can contact me and I will be happy to clue you in 
further.   If your forte is historical document research then this is 
quite useful in determining whether or not patents exist on the 
historical maps which do not show up on the modern maps done after the 
Map act.  In essence the state government tried to pull a fast one.. We 
figured a way to beat them at their game.

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> Jerry Okamura <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:69bha4F32f79hU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> beadsbyirene <sanerthanyou@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:483062a6$0$30481$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> "beadsbyirene" <sanerthanyou@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:pWLXj.143981$Er2.26457@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "FrediFizzx" <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:699ej7F3219vmU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>> Yep, ditto on our house also.  Bought for $23K back in the early
>>>>>>> 70's. Very good for keepin' the rain off your head. ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fred
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:482f72c3$0$5707$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>>>>>> The house we are presently living in now.  We got it at a great
>>>>>>>> price, and it has since appreciated in value considerably from
>>>>>>>> our purchase price, in about eight years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Joe" <cyan999@post.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:8f2702cc-afb9-4964-bf0d-8425adb35b82@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
>>>>>>>>> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours
>>>>>>>>> or someone elses), what so far is
>>>>>>>>> the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why
>>>>>>>>> you think so.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You guys are so materialistic.  The best purchase I ever made was
>>>>>> a marriage license for 3 bucks 48 years ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good point.  But I do not consider the cost of a marriage license
>>>>> as a purchase, because you did not have to "purchase" a licnese to
>>>>> live with someone for the rest of your life.  We do that because
>>>>> it is one of those things we are expected to do, when we marry
>>>>> someone.
>>>
>>>> 48 years ago, you had to purchase a license to live with someone
>>>> for the rest of your life. Living together without that license was
>>>> considered 'sin' in those days.
>>>
>>> No it wasnt, plenty did it even then. That was the 60s when doing
>>> that was rife.
>>>
>>
>> This year is 2008.  48 years ago, would make it 1960.
>
> Duh. Plenty of people were doing that in 1960.
>

Well, heck.  Depending on the definition of "plenty", they were doing it 
before the '60's and they are sitll doing it. 

Shawn Hirn <srhi@comcast.net> wrote:

>1. My portable GPS. 

Which brand and model do you have?

ppnerkDELETETHIS@yahoo.com (Phred) wrote:

>My 30-year-old car which is still running reasonably well.

what you have?

Charlie Perrin <nikverse@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Computer table bought in 1982-1983. 

what brand and model?

Jerry Okamura <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Jerry Okamura <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> beadsbyirene <sanerthanyou@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Jerry Okamura <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote
>>>>>> beadsbyirene <sanerthanyou@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> FrediFizzx <fredifizzx@hotmail.com> wrote

>>>>>>>> Yep, ditto on our house also.  Bought for $23K back in the
>>>>>>>> early 70's. Very good for keepin' the rain off your head. ;-)

>>>>>>>> Jerry Okamura <okamuraj005@hawaii.rr.com> wrote

>>>>>>>>> The house we are presently living in now.  We got it at a great price, and it has since appreciated in value
>>>>>>>>> considerably from our purchase price, in about eight years.

>>>>>>>>> Joe <cyan999@post.com> wrote

>>>>>>>>>> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a charitable donation and / or paying for 
>>>>>>>>>> education (be it
>>>>>>>>>> yours or someone elses), what so far is the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you 
>>>>>>>>>> think so.

>>>>>>> You guys are so materialistic.  The best purchase I ever made was a marriage license for 3 bucks 48 years ago.

>>>>>> Good point.  But I do not consider the cost of a marriage license as a purchase, because you did not have to 
>>>>>> "purchase" a licnese to live with someone for the rest of your life.  We do that because it is one of those 
>>>>>> things we are expected to do, when we marry someone.

>>>>> 48 years ago, you had to purchase a license to live with someone for the rest of your life. Living together 
>>>>> without that license was considered 'sin' in those days.

>>>> No it wasnt, plenty did it even then. That was the 60s when doing that was rife.

>>> This year is 2008.  48 years ago, would make it 1960.

>> Duh. Plenty of people were doing that in 1960.

> Well, heck.  Depending on the definition of "plenty", they were doing it before the '60's

Yep, what I said in another post.

> and they are sitll doing it.

Yep, but she claimed that it wasnt done then. She is just plain wrong. 

On May 17, 4:12 am, Gary <n...@none.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 May 2008 20:58:05 -0700 (PDT), Joe <cyan...@post.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
> >charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
> >someone elses), what so far is
> >the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you
> >think so.
>
> A 1957 Ford for $200.    Elaborations cost extra.  

Was that one of those retractable hard top Fords? :D

On May 16, 11:58 pm, Joe <cyan...@post.com> wrote:
> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
> someone elses), what so far is
> the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you
> think so.

Too many things to list but here are some that come to mind:

1 week vacation at Secrets Capri Riviera Cancun in Playa Del Carmen,
Mexico, June 2006, for our honeymoon. Once-in-a-lifetime trip (as in,
now we have a baby). Food was amazing, weather was great.
Relaxation..... drinks were nice (we're not heavy drinkers). Would go
there again. Adults only though.

Canon 20D and subsequently Canon 40D digital SLR camera along with
Canon 100mm macro lense, Canon MP-E 65mm macro lense and Canon MT-24EX
twinlite flash. I used to do macro photography and these pieces of
equipment never let me down.

The 2 computers I built in June 2007 buying everything from
Newegg.com. Received everything in like 2 days. No problems
whatsoever, no RMA's. Sold 1 computer for small profit and still have
the other.

Weber Genesis Grill E300 series I just purchased today along with my
Waring Pro. yes I know i just bought them nad I have no idea if they
will be the best purchases i ever made but i have a feeling they will,
as i plan to get into some serious cooking.

On May 17, 6:49 pm, "beadsbyirene" <sanerthan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "FrediFizzx" <fredifi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:699ej7F3219vmU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Yep, ditto on our house also.  Bought for $23K back in the early 70's.
> > Very good for keepin' the rain off your head. ;-)
>
> > Fred
>
> > "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
> >news:482f72c3$0$5707$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> >> The house we are presently living in now.  We got it at a great price,
> >> and it has since appreciated in value considerably from our purchase
> >> price, in about eight years.
>
> >> "Joe" <cyan...@post.com> wrote in message
> >>news:8f2702cc-afb9-4964-bf0d-8425adb35b82@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> >>> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
> >>> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
> >>> someone elses), what so far is
> >>> the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you
> >>> think so.
>
> You guys are so materialistic.  The best purchase I ever made was a marriage
> license for 3 bucks 48 years ago.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

In that case...the best purchase was my divorce filing fee.  Regaining
sanity...priceless! :-D

On May 18, 8:39 am, Charlie Perrin <nikve...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 16 May 2008 20:58:05 -0700 (PDT), Joe wrote:
> >what so far is the best purchase you've ever made and
> >please elaborate on why you think so.
>
> Computer table bought in 1982-1983.
>
> It's still running strong. While computers have changed greatly over
> the years, they're all compatible with the table.

Sure hope so considering computers today weigh like 1/4 what they did
back then, eh? :)

"Seerialmom" <seerialmom@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:28e8e9f3-7f46-4a69-83af-190543859586@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On May 17, 6:49 pm, "beadsbyirene" <sanerthan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "FrediFizzx" <fredifi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
<snip>

> You guys are so materialistic. The best purchase I ever made was a 
> marriage
> license for 3 bucks 48 years ago.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

>In that case...the best purchase was my divorce filing fee.  Regaining
>sanity...priceless! :-D

If you weren't lucky enough to marry the right person then yes, your 
purchase is a good and worthy one. 

<me@privacy.net> wrote in message 
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> Charlie Perrin <nikverse@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>Computer table bought in 1982-1983.
>
> what brand and model?

If it was bought in 1982 or 1983, I doubt that anyone would know what the 
brand and model was.  Heck my office desk (which my computer sits on) was 
bought about eight years ago and I don't know what brand table it is.  I did 
not even care who made the table, I simply bought it because it met what I 
thought were my needs at the time. 

In article <Xns9AA3562CF6D36VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>, 
bert@iphouse.com says...
> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzz (krw) wrote in
> news:MPG.229aa8816290b2a0989c28@news.individual.net: 
> 
> > In article <b41Yj.144424$Er2.48534@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, 
> > sanerthanyou@gmail.com says...
> >> 
> >> "Bert Hyman" <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in message 
> >> news:Xns9AA2961EA386CVeebleFetzer@216.250.184.7...
> >> > In news:lC%Xj.48458$3v1.17850@bignews3.bellsouth.net
> >> > "beadsbyirene" <sanerthanyou@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> 48 years ago, you had to purchase a license to live with someone
> >> >> for the rest of your life. Living together without that license
> >> >> was considered 'sin' in those days.
> >> >
> >> > Not quite.
> >> >
> >> > The churches required the ceremony, while the state required the
> >> > license.
> > 
> > Isn't at least a civil "ceremony" required?
> 
> I just meant that the curches were the ones who invented the concept
> of "living in sin", requiring their marriage ceremony to make the

I suppose a few hundred years ago, but I've never heard the phrase  
used for people married in other religions or even by a JP (ship's 
captain, etc.).

> marriage legit. The idea of a civil ceremony is a relatively recent
> invention. 

Define "recent".

-- 
Keith

In article <69dfbmF31qirmU1@mid.individual.net>, 
ppnerkDELETETHIS@yahoo.com says...
> In article <3AcYj.226$UE2.196@newsfe24.lga>, clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
> >Phred wrote:
> >
> >>My 30-year-old car which is still running reasonably well.
> >>
> >>I hesitate to "upgrade" because there's so much friggin' electronics 
> >>in modern vehicles you can't get them fixed out in the sticks -- and 
> >>everyone knows computer stuff tends to die in about three years.
> >>
> >Can't give up that 8-track, eh?
> 
> If you're talking those old mainframe tapes, yeah, they were pretty 
> reliable. 

Those would be seven or nine track tapes.  8-tracks weren't quite as 
high end, nor as reliable.  Though they were easier to change while 
driving. ;-)

> (About 20 years ago I got data transferred from a couple of 
> 15-year-old tapes to DSHD floppies -- remember those? -- without any 
> problems.  I'll post again if I can still read the floppies... If I 
> can find them! :-)

I'd be amazed if you can.

-- 
Keith

"Bert Hyman" <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in message 
news:Xns9AA3562CF6D36VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1...

> I just meant that the curches were the ones who invented the concept
> of "living in sin", requiring their marriage ceremony to make the
> marriage legit. The idea of a civil ceremony is a relatively recent
> invention.

That was after the churches finally accepted the pagan practice of marraige.

FrediFizzx wrote:
> Al, I think you need to stay away from cars before your luck runs out. ;-)
> 
> Fred
> 
> "Al E. Crocodile" <Al@CrocsBiteaHillBillyToday.com> wrote in message 
> news:9u-dnRzjn9wQ57PVnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d@comcast.com...
>> bought my daughter a car for $5700, she totaled it in 6 months and the 
>> insurance paid me $7400 for it,
>>
>> that's a 30% annual return,
>>
>> so I bought her 6 more
>>
>>
>> bought myself a car, 2005, for $12k last august, somebody totaled me 7 
>> months later, he had no insurance,I had put 10K miles on the car and 
>> they paid me $12500 for it,
>> plus $12,000 for pain and suffering, found the same model in a 2007 
>> with many more options and 13,000 less miles for the same amount
>> as the 1st car, they also paid $500 for a rental car and $5000 for 
>> doctor bills,$1000 for 3 days missed work
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Joe" <cyan999@post.com> wrote in message 
>> news:8f2702cc-afb9-4964-bf0d-8425adb35b82@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
>>> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
>>> someone elses), what so far is
>>> the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you
>>> think so.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> 
  Hell you should make it a business I know a couple Russians and 
Dr.Lovebucks who need a front man.  <s>

On Mon, 19 May 2008 12:34:42 -0500, me@privacy.net wrote:

>Charlie Perrin wrote:

>>Computer table bought in 1982-1983. 

>what brand and model?

All I can remember is I bought it at Radio Shack. It's even survived
four moves.

Did you get a Windows table, or a Mac table?

-- 
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
  www.lds.org
.


"Charlie Perrin" <nikverse@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message 
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On Fri, 16 May 2008 20:58:05 -0700 (PDT), Joe wrote:

>what so far is the best purchase you've ever made and
>please elaborate on why you think so.

Computer table bought in 1982-1983.

It's still running strong. While computers have changed greatly over
the years, they're all compatible with the table. 

Thanks for getting me thinking. And thank you to the fellow who mentioned 
the Toro weed whacker for his Dad. Reminded me of the air rifle I got for my 
Dad. You see, when he was little, his brother (my uncle) had a BB gun. Dad 
had mentioned being envious of the BB gun, and wishing for one. So, one 
Christmas I bought him a Crossman 760. Might have been the best Christmas 
present I ever got.

Now, as to myself. I finally convinced myself to buy a digital camera, about 
a year ago. Bought a Lumix LS-70 at BJ's Wholesale Club, $99.95. Best 
hundred bucks I've ever spent. I've had more fun with that camera than 
nearly any other item I've ever bought. I take all the pictures I want. No 
worries about the cost of film. Delete the ones which don't come out.

-- 
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
  www.lds.org
.


"Joe" <cyan999@post.com> wrote in message 
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Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
someone elses), what so far is
the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you
think so.

On May 17, 9:49 pm, "beadsbyirene" <sanerthan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "FrediFizzx" <fredifi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:699ej7F3219vmU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Yep, ditto on our house also.  Bought for $23K back in the early 70's.
> > Very good for keepin' the rain off your head. ;-)
>
> > Fred
>
> > "Jerry Okamura" <okamuraj...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
> >news:482f72c3$0$5707$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> >> The house we are presently living in now.  We got it at a great price,
> >> and it has since appreciated in value considerably from our purchase
> >> price, in about eight years.
>
> >> "Joe" <cyan...@post.com> wrote in message
> >>news:8f2702cc-afb9-4964-bf0d-8425adb35b82@1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> >>> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
> >>> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
> >>> someone elses), what so far is
> >>> the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you
> >>> think so.
>
> You guys are so materialistic.  The best purchase I ever made was a marriage
> license for 3 bucks 48 years ago.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

And what does the other better half say to that?  lol

On May 16, 11:58 pm, Joe <cyan...@post.com> wrote:
> Exlcuding anything to do with admirable things like making a
> charitable donation and / or paying for education (be it yours or
> someone elses), what so far is
> the best purchase you've ever made and please elaborate on why you
> think so.

1/2 price lazer hair removal. lol  both halves here appreciate the
time, creams, razors, cuts etc avoided

One of my investment mutual funds in the 1990s.
Its grown pretty well through three recessions and two stock booms.
Many other mutual funds purchases have either stagnated
or I've switched to tax efficiency.  But this "enigizer bunny"
of a fund keeps on growing and going.

On May 17, 7:49 pm, "beadsbyirene" <sanerthan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You guys are so materialistic.  The best purchase I ever made was a marriage
> license for 3 bucks 48 years ago.

Whats non-materialistic about a free maid, a free nanny,
guaranteed sexual relief, and an inheritance mechanism? :-)

I forgot: my Homelite corded lawnmower! Comes with a mulcher
attachment so no more bags of grass, no more raking!

Been using it for 2 months now and works great. I use two 50' outdoor
extension cords and it works just fine with them, no loss of power.

And of course it's electric and not gas, so when I store it in the
garage, no fumes in the house.

In article <23de3904-6106-4f96-af75-f005c59165b7
@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, rick303@hotmail.com says...
> On May 17, 7:49 pm, "beadsbyirene" <sanerthan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > You guys are so materialistic.  The best purchase I ever made was a marriage
> > license for 3 bucks 48 years ago.
> 
> Whats non-materialistic about a free maid, a free nanny,
> guaranteed sexual relief, and an inheritance mechanism? :-)

Free?!!!

-- 
Keith

On Thu, 22 May 2008 08:40:28 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote:

>Did you get a Windows table, or a Mac table?

It predates both Windows and Mac.

On Thu, 22 May 2008 08:46:51 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote:

>Now, as to myself. I finally convinced myself to buy a digital camera, about 
>a year ago. Bought a Lumix LS-70 at BJ's Wholesale Club, $99.95. Best 
>hundred bucks I've ever spent. I've had more fun with that camera than 
>nearly any other item I've ever bought. I take all the pictures I want. No 
>worries about the cost of film. Delete the ones which don't come out.

My Mom's film camera stopped working.

Wonder if she could figure out a digital camera at the age of 85.

"Charlie Perrin" <nikverse@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message 
news:tnrh34d6qrupfrr4bukim2hbfocavcetol@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 22 May 2008 08:46:51 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote:
>
>>Now, as to myself. I finally convinced myself to buy a digital camera, 
>>about
>>a year ago. Bought a Lumix LS-70 at BJ's Wholesale Club, $99.95. Best
>>hundred bucks I've ever spent. I've had more fun with that camera than
>>nearly any other item I've ever bought. I take all the pictures I 
>>want. No
>>worries about the cost of film. Delete the ones which don't come out.
>
> My Mom's film camera stopped working.
>
> Wonder if she could figure out a digital camera at the age of 85.

Does she have a computer to transfer images to?  My Mom is 87 and still 
kickin' it pretty good with her computer on the iNet and email.  She 
loves getting pictures of the great grandchildren on the computer.

Fred