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Article #1001Re: government schools are now prisons
From: Bob LeChevalier
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:32
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:32
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rexy@ij.net (rex) wrote: >You always use the classic reasoning used by totalitarian socialism. No. >If the issue is education, food, clothing, shelter, TV, widgets or any >goods or services, then a freedom advocate will point out how people >provide for needs in a free market economy, No. Only a loony libertoonian discusses such things. >and the response of the >classic totalitarian socialist is that everything that people have in >a free society can be provided by a totalitarian government because >"Don't government providers have to answer to citizens too? Or at >least to the provider board, who the citizens elect?" That isn't the response of the "classic totalitarian socialist". Maybe you should read some before presuming to know their arguments. Nor is this my response. >It is frightening how commonplace that response has become and how the >people who provide that response to one subject (e.g. schools) NEVER >OPENLY expand the response as was done in the Union of Soviet >Socialist Republics, Communist China, the National Socialist German >Workers Party, Cuba, etc. I don't know anyone who provides that response to one subject. >It is as if the people who use that >simplistic response do not know all the horrible ideologies that have >used that same response. Guilt by association, even if it were relevant, is not logically sound. > Very frightening. Libertarian irrationality surely is. >You do not think philosophically about the range of your own comments, One man's philosophy is another man's belly laugh. Why bother? >and you simplistically rubber-stamp government programs that others >start (because you are not enough of a creative thinker to come up >with your own socialist ideas). You've said this a few times, and it neither makes sense, nor seems relevant. > Point to any website or even other >group posts where you attempt to explain any political philsophy or >philosophy of government that you hold (you hold none, other than >rubber-stamp statism) or point to any philosophical defense of liberty >(calling for the reduction of government programs, laws, socialism) >that you have ever made. Already answered. Your philosophical ramblings rate nothing but a belly laugh. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group (Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.) Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org
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