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Article #1023Re: government schools are now prisons
From: Roger
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:51
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 06:51
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"joe" <joebird_11@netzero.com> wrote in message news:bp99h0$54v$1@news.wplus.net... > Roger, you know as well as the rest of us that it's highly unlikely that the > school board would have the guts to tell the principal he was wrong.why? the > unions would presure them not to, Yes we elect them but, once a person gets > elected the odds of a chalenger winning is pretty low it's sorta like > congress where people always say ''throw the bums out, except our bum he's a > good guy'' Principals are management. They aren't in unions. If the system doesn't work, lobby to get it changed. Don't throw away a whole system because the people with a better idea of how to fix it are too lazy to force a change. > "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:HWLtb.1935$9l2.7642212@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... > > "rex" <rexy@ij.net> wrote in message > news:3fb78737_6@corp.newsgroups.com... > > > "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > news:wMFtb.31778$Hb3.11180@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com... > > > > "joe" <joebird_11@netzero.com> wrote in message > > > > news:bp6qhi$13sp$1@news.wplus.net... > > > > > yes they could have done the raid in a private school too, had the > > > > principal > > > > > invited them in to do it ( as is the case in the S.C. school) the > > > > difference > > > > > is that in a private school the principal would have to answer to > > angery > > > > > parents. > > > > > > > > Don't public school principals have to answer to parents too? Or at > > least > > > to > > > > the school board, who the parents elected? > > > > > > That is the classic reasoning of totalitarian socialism. If the issue > is > > > education, food, clothing, shelter, TV, widgets or any goods or > services, > > > then a freedom advocate will point out how people provide for needs in a > > > free market economy, and the response of the classic totalitarian > > socialist > > > is that everything that people have in a free society can be provided by > a > > > totalitarian government because "Don't government providers have to > answer > > > to citizens too? Or at least to the provider board, who the citizens > > elect?" > > > It is frightening how commonplace that response has become and how the > > > people who provide that response to one subject (e.g. schools) NEVER > > OPENLY > > > expand the response as was done in the Union of Soviet Socialist > > Republics, > > > Communist China, the National Socialist German Workers Party, Cuba, etc. > > > It is as if the people who use that simplistic response do not know all > > the > > > horrible ideologies that have used that same response. Very > frightening. > > > > You proved nothing. School boards answer to citizens. Period. That's > > democracy. In totalitarianism, no citizen has any say. Period. > > > > > >
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