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Re: government schools are now prisons

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From: Roger
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:20
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They could have done this raid in a private school too.


"rex" <rexy@ij.net> wrote in message news:3fb64961_6@corp.newsgroups.com...
> As an attorney, I believe that government schools should be
unconstitutional
> under the Fourth Amendment ban of unreasonable searches. The recent
> police-state raid in Goose Creek, South Carolina is another in the growing
> list of proofs (with more at http://rexcurry.net).
>
> Government schools have a special exemption under the 4th Amendment, a
> lowered standard that promotes police-state raids. A raid was caught on
> videotape when gun-toting police burst into a high school, ordering
students
> to lie flat on their stomachs in hall ways as they searched for drugs on
> Nov. 7, 2003. Police handcuffed anyone who apparently didn't comply
quickly
> enough. The tape showed police waving their guns and searching lockers.
>
> Worse still, the media reports that the school maintains constant video
> surveillance of students through various cameras available to police.
>
> During my legal career, parents have asked me if it is wise (or
> constitutional) for government to control everyone's education.
>
> Government schools create milquetoasts in the same way that Cuban schools
> create socialists. That is why parents leave their own children in
> government schools with constant video surveillance and police-state
> tactics. Government schools in the U.S. are different only in degree from
> schools in the former U.S.S.R.
>
> The 4th amendment should be improved to specifically include "schools"
with
> the same high standard given to homes. Of course, the only real solution
is
> to end government schools. Many parents have already rescued their
children
> from government schools in favor of the many better alternatives.
>
> The U.S. did not have government schools when the Fourth (and First)
> Amendment was written. If the authors of the Constitution had foreseen the
> government's education monstrosity then the Fourth Amendment would have
> included government schools, and the First Amendment would have banned
> Congress from the establishment of religion and education.
>
> The Constitution should be amended to include "education" next to
> "religion." The separation of school and state is as important as the
> separation of church and state. And for the same ideological reasons. The
> proposed constitutional amendment is discussed in detail at
> http://rexcurry.net .
>
> Even if an excuse could be made for the initial creation of some
government
> schools, their ongoing existence is proof of their ongoing failure to
> educate people to handle their own (or their childrens') educations
without
> government schools.
>
> The Post And Courier newspaper in Charleston reports that Goose Creek high
> school is one of the largest in the state with 2,760 students. It has an
> academic reputation as one of the Low country's best. But that doesn't
show
> from the subservient comments of the students and parents.
>
> The media reported that "the commando-style raid has parents questioning
the
> wisdom of police tactics." It is sad that no media reported that the raid
> has parents questioning the wisdom of government schools. And that is more
> proof that government schools are dangerous and must end.
>
> A media outlet reported that a parent said "I was just upset knowing they
> had guns put to their head and a K9 was barking at them and about to bite
> somebody. It was awful." Only through years of government schooling can a
> parent say such a statement and not announce that she is withdrawing her
> student from government schools. She did not even question the
> constitutionality of government schools per se.
>
> As if that weren't bad enough, the media reports that parents and students
> are already aware, and have done nothing about, the school's constant
video
> surveillance available to police. The paper quoted a law enforcement
officer
> as saying that he watched school surveillance tapes from four days that
> showed students congregating under various cameras, allegedly to avoid
being
> filmed. "They know where the cameras are. If they stand directly under
them,
> the camera's don't look directly down," the law enforcement officer told a
> paper.
>
> The 4th amendment states "The right of the people to be secure in their
> persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and
> seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon
> probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly
> describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be
> seized."
>
> Police didn't find any criminals in the armed sweep nor any drugs. Goose
> Creek police and school administrators defended the draconian measures as
> necessary for crime prevention.
>
> For other reasons why government schools are unconstitutional see
>
> http://rexcurry.net
>
> and
>
> http://members.ij.net/rex/schoolsmain.html
>
> (For more ideas on liberty and libertarianism see
http://members.ij.net/rex
> and http://rexcurry.net from Rex Curry at rexy@ij.net or
> ecurry@interaccess.net or rexatious@hotmail.com).
>
>
>
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