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On Sat, 3 Jun 2000 15:13:19 GMT, jj@research.att.com (jj, curmudgeon
and tiring philalethist) wrote:

>>My original position was a posting of the "16 Theses" which were felt to be
>>valid objections to the current Theory of Evolution. The page contains a
>>request to various members of the education community to include these
>>Theses in the teaching of  Evolution, if they are not found to be in error.
>
>And the theses are found to be completely ill-taken, constructed of
>straw men, misrepresentations, misunderstandings, and the like,
>and therefore they have no possible place in a school, except
>as examples of misleading rhetoric.

What about the science of mathematics, often described as the "queen"
of the sciences?  Does mathematics still have any place in your
idealized Darwinistic high school?  Because if it does, then evolution
does not.  Evolutionist rhetoric notwithstanding, the real conflict is
between evolution and mathematics, and not between evolution and
religion.  On a number of occasions beginning in the mid 60's of the
last century, a number of the world's best mathematicians looked the
evolutionists straightin the eye and told them their BS was
impossible.  Check out:

	http://www.pathlights.com/ce_encyclopedia/20hist12.htm

for details, and educate yourself.  A few quotes:

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It was the development of tremendously powerful digital computers that
sparked the controversy. At last mathematicians were able to
work out the probability of evolution ever having occurred. They
discovered that, mathematically, life would neither have begun nor
evolved by random action. 

For four days the Wistar convention continued, during which a key
lecture was delivered by *M.P. Schutzenberger, a computer
scientist, who explained that computers are large enough now to
totally work out the mathematical probabilities of evolutionary
theory�and they demonstrate that it is really fiction. 

*Murray Eden showed that it would be impossible for even a single
ordered pair of genes to be produced by DNA mutations in the
bacteria, E. coli,�with 5 billion years in which to produce it! His
estimate was based on 5 trillion tons of the bacteria covering the
planet to a depth of nearly an inch during that 5 billion years. He
then explained that the genes of E. coli contain over a trillion
(1012)
bits of data. That is the number 10 followed by 12 zeros. *Eden then
showed the mathematical impossibility of protein forming by
chance. He also reported on his extensive investigations into genetic
data on hemoglobin (red blood cells). 

Hemoglobin has two chains, called alpha and beta. A minimum of 120
mutations would be required to convert alpha to beta. At least
34 of those changes require changeovers in 2 or 3 nucleotides. Yet,
*Eden pointed out that, if a single nucleotide change occurs through
mutation, the result ruins the blood and kills the organism! 

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Ted Holden
www.bearfabrique.org


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Splifford the bat says:  Always remember

A mind is a terrible thing to waste;  especially on an evolutionist.
Just say no to narcotic drugs, alcohol abuse, and corrupt ideological
doctrines.