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Re: Our Anti-Merit System

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From: Mark Richards
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 05:26
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We've gone round and round a bit covering a lot of ground. I tried to show
examples of why I believe what I do, and you reponded as to why you think
I'm wrong. But we never discussed why it matters.

Our racial policies don't affect me that much. I pay taxes that I believe
are used to exacerbate the problems they're supposed to solve, creating a
downward spiral of standards and morals, and I don't like it that white
solidarity is always considered dangerous and evil while all other ethnic
solidarity is admired. But I really do want what's best for everyone,
including blacks, and I strongly believe that while our policies just annoy
me, they genuinely affect the lives of blacks in America, and throughout the
world.

When I say things that are rude about balcks, it is in response to ourageous
claims of black accomplishment that simply aren't true. Usually those claims
are equally rude to whites, so I feel obligated to defend whites, but it's
even worse that they justify the continuance of policies that are hopeless
and hurtful.

If we were talking about inventors, and you claimed that women were
responsible for as many inventions as men, and sometimes men took credit for
the inventions of women, or it was only oppression by men that kept women
from inventing great things, my defense of men's accomplishments would sound
very anti-woman. But the conversation would not even take place unless
unrealistic arguments were presented in the first place.

So it is with racial discussions. I believe that blacks are different from
whites, as are men different from women. The denial of this obvious fact
thrusts blacks into positions that are disatrous for their own people. They
disrupt schools because we expect them to perform and behave like whites.
They get into colleges when they can't handle the work.They fill up prisons
because we cannot discuss the fact that there are uniquely black problems
that require uniquely black solutions. They get elected to Congress because
we create special districts just for them, so that when they get to
Washington they remain forever on the political fringe instead of just being
American legislators representing Americans. They rule whole countries where
their primary qualification for leadership is their race.

But in schools, business, and in quality of life, blacks always do best when
they find a niche in white society. The one thing that benefits the greatest
number of blacks throughout the world is the one thing that absolutely must
not be permitted: let whites run the countries, the businesses, and the
schools.

We must stop being so aware of race. That means that if blacks are not
proportionately represented in universities or government or boardrooms it
is not a problem. If the best people are in those positions, all of us - not
the least blacks - will be a lot better off.

Most white people will never make a significant accomplishment in their
lives. They won't invent anything or create a work of art, or even start a
business. If we looked really hard, we might find something in common among
them. Maybe certain ethnicities predominate. Maybe they have an unusually
high percentage of a certain eye or hair color. Maybe their ears are bigger,
or their big toes are fatter. But what good would be the information? Unless
we deliberately intended to hurt people, unless we wanted to say to a first
grader: "Look at the size of that toe! No point in you ever to going
college. We'll prepare you to be a street sweeper." And so it should be with
blacks. Whatever reasons may exist, whether genetic, cultural, or social,
blacks will achieve what they are can. We do them a disservice by insisting
that they do more.

I have an idea for a movie plot that demonstrates the point. A small unknown
town is threatened by a flood. When the newscrews arrive, whites are handing
off sandbags to blacks as they frantically try to repair the levee. By the
time the crisis has passed the whole town is seen as an exemplary example of
black and white cohesion. When the townspeople are interviewed, they all say
 they never thought about race before it was brought up by all the
reporters, and they'd just as soon not think about it now.

A large newspaper finds that amazing, so they do some investigation into the
town and its people. They uncover some interesting statistics, and start to
question the townspeople:

"Your town is nationally known a symbol of racial harmony. Yet the average
age of white people's cars is 1.7 years while blacks is 6.4 years."
 "The average white home is worth $207,000 while the average black home is
worth $148,000"
"Though the town is 50% white and 50% black, 85% of all businesses are owned
by whites".

"How do you live with such blatant disparity without it bothering you?"

Needless to say, racial harmony soon disappears. Slurs are heard on the
street. "Hate crimes" begin to occur. People look askance at each other,
begin to avoid each other, and lock their doors at night.

The newspaper is proud of itself, of course. The town was an unnatural lie.
It would be a giant step backwards if other towns became like it.
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I know you completely reject the premise that this whole thing is based on.
Just understand that I believe it. And I hope you can understand that if the
premise is true, it's really not so mean after all.

Mark
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From: "Mark Richards" <markrichards8@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: misc.education,alt.california,austin.general,alt.politics.nationalism.white,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Our Anti-Merit System
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