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Re: Wetback Parents Threaten School Boycott Due To English-only Exam

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From: Rudy Canoza
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:52
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Wayne wrote:
> "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhammond@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
> news:620k8gF21l3veU1@mid.individual.net...
>> "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message 
>> news:AHEuj.5250$kD3.2295@trnddc08...
>>> "Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhammond@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:620dluF1vpbhvU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message 
>>>> news:QUCuj.14947$k_4.12380@trnddc04...
>>>>> "Pubkeybreaker" <pubkeybreaker@aol.com> wrote in message 
>>>>> news:6164fac6-b716-4042-aa41-5a7bc9132f31@62g2000hsn.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ted wrote:
>>>>>> On Feb 16, 8:45?pm, "f. barnes" <fre...@centurytel.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Feb 16, 4:49?pm, Stuart Jackson <bjackson...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Beaners parents say English test is, "unfair,'' "anti-
>>>>>>>> immigrant'' (pooooooooor pooooooooooor 
>>>>>>>> Mexicans):http://www.suntimes.com/news/education/790858,CST-NWS-isat13web.article
>>>>>>> Wetback Parents Threaten School Boycott Due To English-only Exam
>>>>>>> Options
>>>>>
>>>>> Allow me to inject an opinion over and above the racial hatred in the
>>>>> original post.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is indeed unfair to insist that *recent*  immigrants be forced to
>>>>> take a test in English.
>>>>> They have not had enough time to learn it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The solution is obvious:  Do away with bi-lingual education.   For
>>>>> newly arrived
>>>>> immigrants who do not know English, sit them down in a classroom and
>>>>> teach them
>>>>> ONLY English.   8 hours a day.  Do not allow them to study other
>>>>> subjects in school until they
>>>>> have sufficient mastery of English.
>>>>>
>>>>> **************
>>>>> An excellent idea!  The only problem I see is that it is not 
>>>>> politically correct.  Anything short of having K-12 entirely in spanish 
>>>>> is viewed as discriminatory.  Anyone who wants english as a national 
>>>>> language will be declared a racist.  That happens to me, in spite of 15 
>>>>> years of volunteer work assisting in english literacy for spanish 
>>>>> speakers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I grew up in South Bend, Indiana.  I knew dozens of old Europeans who 
>>>> had been in this country for years, and spoke no English at all.  They 
>>>> communicated only with each other and offspring who grew up learning 
>>>> English.  No one pissed and whined about it.
>>>>
>>>> Mexicans have been in Arizona far longer than gringos presently here. 
>>>> Why don't all gringos here learn to speak Spanish?
>>>>
>>> Because there are far more people speaking english in the US than 
>>> spanish.
>> For how long?
>>
> Agreed...for how long?  It is going to require immediate attention to avoid 
> going bilingual in K-12.
> I fear that political correctness will prevail.

It doesn't have to come to that.  In California, the 
voters discarded bilingual "education" in 1998 with 
Proposition 227.  It has worked very well - test scores 
for Lah-TEE-noh students began rising immediately.
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From: Rudy Canoza <pipes@thedismalscience.net>
Newsgroups: misc.education,alt.california,az.politics,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Wetback Parents Threaten School Boycott Due To English-only Exam
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