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Article #2149Re: Wetback Parents Threaten School Boycott Due To English-only Exam
From: Wayne
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:52
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:52
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"Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhammond@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:620dluF1vpbhvU1@mid.individual.net... > > "Wayne" <mygarbagecan@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:QUCuj.14947$k_4.12380@trnddc04... >> >> "Pubkeybreaker" <pubkeybreaker@aol.com> wrote in message >> news:6164fac6-b716-4042-aa41-5a7bc9132f31@62g2000hsn.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> Ted wrote: >>> On Feb 16, 8:45?pm, "f. barnes" <fre...@centurytel.net> wrote: >>> > On Feb 16, 4:49?pm, Stuart Jackson <bjackson...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > > Beaners parents say English test is, "unfair,'' "anti- >>> > > immigrant'' (pooooooooor pooooooooooor >>> > > Mexicans):http://www.suntimes.com/news/education/790858,CST-NWS-isat13web.article >>> > >>> > Wetback Parents Threaten School Boycott Due To English-only Exam >>> > Options >> >> >> Allow me to inject an opinion over and above the racial hatred in the >> original post. >> >> It is indeed unfair to insist that *recent* immigrants be forced to >> take a test in English. >> They have not had enough time to learn it. >> >> The solution is obvious: Do away with bi-lingual education. For >> newly arrived >> immigrants who do not know English, sit them down in a classroom and >> teach them >> ONLY English. 8 hours a day. Do not allow them to study other >> subjects in school until they >> have sufficient mastery of English. >> >> ************** >> An excellent idea! The only problem I see is that it is not politically >> correct. Anything short of having K-12 entirely in spanish is viewed as >> discriminatory. Anyone who wants english as a national language will be >> declared a racist. That happens to me, in spite of 15 years of volunteer >> work assisting in english literacy for spanish speakers. >> >> > > I grew up in South Bend, Indiana. I knew dozens of old Europeans who had > been in this country for years, and spoke no English at all. They > communicated only with each other and offspring who grew up learning > English. No one pissed and whined about it. > > Mexicans have been in Arizona far longer than gringos presently here. Why > don't all gringos here learn to speak Spanish? > Because there are far more people speaking english in the US than spanish. Because it creates problems in communication between citizens across all the states. You could end up with border states speaking spanish, and everyone else speaking english. In spite of your desire to have that situation, it would be extremely disruptive, but it would be politically correct. Because, it perputuates discrimination against a class that doesn't speak the dominant language. Your South Bend, Indiana example is excellent. Those people were stuck in South Bend, speaking whatever language. But their kids became fluent in english and were able to take advantage of many more possibilities. Why don't the gringos learn spanish. Well, payaso, this gringo did.
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