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Article #2183Re: Why do Latino kids do poorly in schools?
From: Bob LeChevalier
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:27
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:27
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"Richard" <richardfangnail@excite.com> wrote: >On Feb 28, 1:10 pm, Bob LeChevalier <loj...@lojban.org> wrote: >> "Richard" <richardfangn...@excite.com> wrote: >> >Latinos are kind of like Asians in their devotion to the family unit >> >and good work ethic. I don't get why their kids don't score well on >> >tests - could it be that the tests don't measure achievement? Or does >> >their culture emphasize manual tasks and not mental prowess? >> >> Or maybe it is that a different class of immigrants come here from >> Asia (mostly highly educated professionals and their offspring) than >> from the south (mostly poor, uneducated peasants). >> >> When you compare the top of one bell curve with the bottom of another, >> seldom do you find parity. But one Asian group that had similar bad >> demographics to the Latinos, the Hmong, has had similarly poor success >> in American education. > >Why does China only allow educated people to emigrate? 1. It takes money - thousands of dollars - to get out of the country, and transport oneself several thousand miles. (It is a lot cheaper to get from Tijuana to San Diego, etc.) Only educated people have the money to afford to get here. 2. As a government policy, mostly they are letting people out of the country so as to study overseas and bring back technology that will enrich their country and industry. 3. It isn't only what *they* do. This country tends to admit as legal immigrants only those who WE value, which are highly-educated high tech employees (and students who will pay lots of tuition to our universities). Few Latino immigrants get in as high-tech workers, but either illegally, or as refugees, or as family members of American citizens, or one of the other classes of immigrants. 4. Most Asian immigrants aren't from China either. Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan, and Korea, and of course Taiwan (which is or is not China depending on your political era). Of course, the above is true for all of these countries as well - they have near-universal education to the high school level, and most of those who come here are university students or graduates. >And aren't the Hmong people mostly from China, too? Not even close. They are refugees from Laos and Thailand, many of whom fought for us during the Vietnam era. They were extremely poor hunter-gatherers who lived in the jungle, even before languishing in refugee camps for years, and rarely even a year or two of education in their homeland. http://www.cal.org/co/hmong/hlit.html http://www.migrationinformation.org/USfocus/display.cfm?id=281 http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2004/06/03_randolpht_hmong/ lojbab
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