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Article #2186Re: are Asian American kids taking after black kids?
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Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:45
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:45
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On 3 Aug 2005 15:31:33 -0700, richardfangnail@excite.com wrote: >To some extent, they are, and it's a problem regarding the automatic >hate of school and cops. I'm not saying all black kids are bad but >their performance/attitude has been sinking in the past 20 years. > >I mean I see Asian youths wearing baggy sports jerseys and all that. >It doesn't always mean the kid is in a gang but it can. Of course not because the Asian gang is a different kind of culture than the black gang, but.... Asians, like black people and white people are not all the same. http://teenadvice.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=teenadvice&zu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nagia.org%2Fasian_youth_gangs1.htm or http://snipurl.com/gp9u Even in 1996, it is common for educators to assume that all gangs, including Asian gangs, are basically the same. However, Asian gang structure, activities, status in the ethnic community and greater community, relationships with other ethnic gangs and roles in the schools vary according to several factors. These variables include the following: degree of social isolation, such as living in public housing, in "Chinatowns" or in newly formed "Asia Towns"; rejection and mistreatment of Asians by proximate populations; acceptance or rejection in schools; exposure to gang-organizing forces; lack of access to culturally appropriate social and recreational opportunities; employment policies discriminatory against Asians; and the presence of other gangs in the neighborhoods surrounding Asian enclaves. The term Asian gang itself may be so overly broad that it inhibits learning about gang-participating youth and developing culturally appropriate responses to gang formation and evolution within a community. The term Asian includes East and Southeast Asian populations. The latter two broad categories include as many cultural dissimilarities as similarities between populations. ***************** Many influences, including positive and negative stereotypes, have contributed to the rise of Asian youth gangs in the United States, not the least of which is the numbing of emotional responsiveness which can be seen in many recent immigrant youth. This dulling of personal affect may result in part from childhoods spent in border camps in Thailand or from horrific experiences in escaping Laos, Cambodia, China or Viet Nam. Such trauma can have significant and long-lasting effects for the youth and their families. Even children born of immigrants in America who have not personally experienced the effects of war or life in relocation and refugee camps nonetheless may suffer indirectly from the effects of such events upon their parents, older siblings, and other relatives. The experiential and cultural complexities underlying the observable behavior of ethnic youth within a given school district must be discovered and understood in order to respond effectively to the needs of such youth. ************* From St. Paul, MN: Southeast Asian pastor Cher Moua has seen a rise in Asian youth gangs in Saint Paul that a volunteer approach to youth ministry alone has had problems addressing. This has led him to create a parachurch model called Family and Youth Advancement Services to sit alongside the church he pastors, reaching high-risk Asian youth ************* In Vancouver and Toronto, police have had special Asian investigative units since the `70s. Newspapers occasionally feature lurid accounts of their struggles with "Asian youth gangs" that operate protection rackets, smuggle drugs and manage prostitutes. *************** You might want to read this report on Asian Youth Gangs: Glenn Thomas Tsunokai, "Asian Youth Gangs in Southern California Suburbia: A Multidimmensional Perspective," Chaired by Dr. Austin Turk, December, 1996, UCR -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits
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