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Re: are Asian American kids taking after black kids?

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From: toto
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:45
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On 3 Aug 2005 15:31:33 -0700, richardfangnail@excite.com wrote:

>To some extent, they are, and it's a problem regarding the automatic
>hate of school and cops.  I'm not saying all black kids are bad but
>their performance/attitude has been sinking in the past 20 years.
>
>I mean I see Asian youths wearing baggy sports jerseys and all that.
>It doesn't always mean the kid is in a gang but it can.

Of course not because the Asian gang is a different kind of culture
than the black gang, but....

Asians, like black people and white people are not all the same.

http://teenadvice.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=teenadvice&zu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nagia.org%2Fasian_youth_gangs1.htm

or
http://snipurl.com/gp9u

Even in 1996, it is common for educators to assume that all 
gangs, including Asian gangs, are basically the same.  However, 
Asian gang structure, activities, status in the ethnic community 
and greater community, relationships with other ethnic gangs 
and roles in the schools vary according to several factors.  
These variables include the following:

degree of social isolation, such as living in public housing, in
"Chinatowns" or in newly formed "Asia Towns";

rejection and mistreatment of Asians by proximate 
populations;

acceptance or rejection in schools;

exposure to gang-organizing forces;

lack of access to culturally appropriate social and 
recreational opportunities;

employment policies discriminatory against Asians; and

the presence of other gangs in the neighborhoods 
surrounding Asian enclaves.

The term Asian gang itself may be so overly broad that 
it inhibits learning about gang-participating youth and 
developing culturally appropriate responses to gang 
formation and evolution within a community.  The term 
Asian includes East and Southeast Asian populations.  
The latter two broad categories include as many cultural
dissimilarities as similarities between populations.

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Many influences, including positive and negative stereotypes, 
have contributed to the rise of Asian youth gangs in the United
States, not the least of which is the numbing of emotional
responsiveness which can be seen in many recent immigrant 
youth.  This dulling of personal affect may result in part from
childhoods spent in border camps in Thailand or from horrific
experiences in escaping Laos, Cambodia, China or Viet Nam.  
Such trauma can have significant and long-lasting effects for the
youth and their families.  Even children born of immigrants in 
America who have not personally experienced the effects of 
war or life in relocation and refugee camps nonetheless may 
suffer indirectly from the effects of such events upon their parents,
older siblings, and other relatives.  The experiential and cultural
complexities underlying the observable behavior of ethnic youth 
within a given school district must be discovered and understood 
in order to respond effectively to the needs of such youth.

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From St. Paul, MN:
Southeast Asian pastor Cher Moua has seen a rise in Asian youth 
gangs in Saint Paul that a volunteer approach to youth ministry 
alone has had problems addressing. This has led him to create a
parachurch model called Family and Youth Advancement Services 
to sit alongside the church he pastors, reaching high-risk Asian 
youth

*************
In Vancouver and Toronto, police have had special Asian 
investigative units since the `70s. Newspapers occasionally 
feature lurid accounts of their struggles with "Asian youth gangs"
that operate protection rackets, smuggle drugs and manage 
prostitutes.

***************

You might want to read this report on Asian Youth Gangs:

Glenn Thomas Tsunokai, "Asian Youth Gangs in Southern California
Suburbia: A Multidimmensional Perspective," Chaired by Dr. Austin
Turk, December, 1996, UCR


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