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Article #2188Re: Sabotage of Our Childrens' Future
From: Jerry Okamura
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 05:11
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 05:11
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<racqueteer@killspamverizon.net> wrote in message news:lv1jv0p4bv1hbsbm7jip4vai04pl9ipdcu@4ax.com... > On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:09:42 -0800, Jay Kadis <jay@ccrma.stanford.edu> > wrote: > >>In article <ctbd3h$1j8c@odds.stat.purdue.edu>, >> hrubin@odds.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) wrote: >> >>> In article <jay-0EC958.09290427012005@news.stanford.edu>, >>> Jay Kadis <jay@ccrma.stanford.edu> wrote: >>> >In article <ctb6i3$1stu@odds.stat.purdue.edu>, >>> > hrubin@odds.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) wrote: >>> >>> [snip] >>> >>> >>> >> Even this is not enough, as few teachers understand the >>> >> basics of their subjects, but proceed by rote. >>> -- >>> >>> >OK, got some statistics on this? >>> >>> How would one get statistics on this? Let the subject matter >>> scholars question the teachers on their knowledge of the basics, >>> and you will find few in mathematics or science who would >>> challenge this statement. But there is no way that you would >>> get the establishment to agree to this test. >> >>That is pure speculation on your part. > > Yes it is, but for Herman, opinion IS fact. I have not been following this thread very closely, but I was struck by your comment. How can an "opinion" be fact?
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