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Article #3058Re: truancy fines in schools
From: Tina Eager
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 09:17
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 09:17
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What I find interesting about this debate is that nobody here seems to be concerned with the disruption caused to the learning of other people when the child concerned returns to school. Imagine a child has been off school for 2 weeks, enjoying an interesting and educational time dossing around on some beach developing skin cancer and so on. Child returns to school. Goes to lesson no 1 Child has missed approximately 4 homeworks and maybe 6 lessons. They haven't been introduced to any of the basic concepts related to the work the class is now doing and can't follow what is going on in class. The teacher makes sure they have the homeworks written down and takes time to explain to the child what they need to know. During which time the rest of the class is deprived of the teacher's attention. Alternatively, teacher tells child to copy up the work from somebody else, thereby depriving the other child of their work at a time when they may need it. Causing teacher to use extra valuable time to check that the work has been copied correctlyand the absentee child understands it. Alternatively teacher says "see me after school and I will explain it to you" thereby depriving other classes of teacher's time when teacher could be marking or preparing work for them. Alternatively teacher says "You're on your own kid - tough". Repeat for maybe 16 lessons in first week back after 2 week holiday. Which option would you suggest? Who should suffer because the child has been on holiday? Then multiply that by maybe 10 kids in each class in the course of the academic year. Whose rights are being interfered with exactly? The absent child's? The child's parents (I wasn't aware that they had a "right" to cheap holidays)? The other kids? The parents of the other kids, who haven't let them take a holiday in term time? The teachers who aren't allowed to take holidays in term time? Personally I don't much care if a child takes holiday during term time - the ones who go are often the ones it's better to be without anyway. But I do object, strongly, to having people scurry round after them when they get back and disrupt everybody else just because some parent thinks they have a right to cheap holidays. I am a parent too and we don't take holidays because we can't afford high season rates. Taking my kids out of school isn't an option. Wonder who would yell if teachers got a pay rise specifically because they have to take holidays at peak times?
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f9e27,bea7f8fb41baccb X-Google-Attributes: gidf9e27,public X-Google-Thread: fd302,bea7f8fb41baccb X-Google-Attributes: gidfd302,public X-Google-Thread: fd9ba,bea7f8fb41baccb X-Google-Attributes: gidfd9ba,public X-Google-Thread: 103e94,bea7f8fb41baccb X-Google-Attributes: gid103e94,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-02-27 01:17:36 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!tikki.tavi.co.UK!not-for-mail From: cje@tavi.co.uk (Tina Eager) Newsgroups: misc.education,uk.education.misc,uk.education.teachers,england.education.misc Subject: Re: truancy fines in schools Date: 27 Feb 2003 09:17:34 GMT Organization: Tavi Systems Lines: 54 Message-ID: <W6UuQz2oisk0-pn2-iljywFqSQzvr@tikki.tavi.co.uk> References: <b3i6cp$1pa$2@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk> <qPZb2NMlYKX+Ewdm@auluk.freeserve.co.uk> <b3iara$clh$1@knossos.btinternet.com> <Pine.LNX.4.44.0302260558330.20111-100000@lab.oregonvos.net> <b3il4m$79k$1@sparta.btinternet.com> <X5b7a.704$pb2.425@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk> Reply-To: cje@tavi.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: tikki.tavi.co.uk (217.169.31.212) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1046337454 56639444 217.169.31.212 (16 [182127]) User-Agent: ProNews/2 V1.53.cp018